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Just ordered a trailstar…..

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PostedJun 5, 2016 at 4:05 am

….and can’t wait for it to be delivered ;)  So last night I made a model of it in sketchup and played with few different pitches.

I’ve googled tons of reviews and comments and it seems the drawbacks most often mentioned are lack of headroom (and a corresponding poor snow shedding ability), large footprint, and more complex pitching compared to a mid. So given the versatility of the shelter, I tried to “pitch” the trailstar to try and eliminate these drawbacks. And this is what I’ve come up with:

Its a 2.1m square, and ridges are 78″ (according to an oldish thread I found here). With these dimensions with corners pitched to the ground the internal pole height is 130cm.  The front pole is 157cm high, and the “beak” extends to 91cm. If necessary (perhaps to sit out a sandstorm??) the beak can be dropped from inside either to the left or the right corner sealing the shelter completely. The person inside is about 5.9″, and the sleeping area is 80x180cm – ideally this would require an inverted V two pole setup, or suspending the trailstar from a tree branch or a ridgeline. Here is the picture showing the bottom with the sleeping area demarcated.

The dimensions above are the tightest, and will increase slightly when the gap is allowed for around the perimeter of the shelter. And of course approximate as stretchiness of the material will have some effect.

 

What do you think??? I really like this setup in theory, and hope it can be replicated in practice? The pitch would take seconds just as a mid does. Great views as well as full protection from elements. Seems also ideal for a lunch break. Tons of headroom, and the beak creates lovliest porch to cook in and for great views. If pitched parallel to the wind, I can even see a small campfire possible just in front of the beak..

 

I already own a supermid and a duomid for when hiking solo, and both are great shelters except that they lack versatility. They are fine for most conditions and seasons except some extreme and unusual situations. But the trailstar it seems truly is able to accommodate virtually any scenario except perhaps a narrow mountain ledge where only a bivy would do…. For extreme winds or when one wishes to disappear from landscape, it can be pitched low. When its snowing it can be pitched as a mid. When its sunny and hot it can be pitched high like a tarp creating a nice shade. Tons of room inside for emergency, should a friend or two need cover. People even use it successfully as a fly for hammocks. Plus its simplicity and absence of any frills to fail. A truly one shelter to rule them all?….

 

Pete M BPL Member
PostedJun 5, 2016 at 5:33 am

I’d be very interested to see this pitch for real, once your TS arrives – so please post some photos and details! I seen them pitched as straight pyramids in snow, with 4 steep sides and the fifth loose side doubled over and hooked onto one of the existing stakes. That loose flap can then be just unhooked when one wants to get in and out. 2016 Pro Silnylon yes? Lovely, MLD rules the world.

PostedJun 5, 2016 at 5:50 am

Here is a photo from the side showing the beak better….

 

Yes ordered it in 2016 silnylon, for more stretchiness and flexibility :)

PostedJun 5, 2016 at 6:34 am

Yep I’ve seen those too, I found also this video of the guy getting in and out (although the extra flap of material I would fold on the inside, would probably be more convenient this way to do and undo it):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/den_dzjow/5454470582/in/photostream/

 

That’s where I got the idea, just worked it back to the beak stage to see how it would look with the fifth panel up….

Pete M BPL Member
PostedJun 5, 2016 at 7:27 am

Nice to see it on the video. As I say, I’d be real interested to see your version once it arrives. Trailstars are popular amongst the lightweight outdoor community in Scotland, due to the way it handles wind mainly. Scotland can get serious wind off the Northern Atlantic and the Scottish summits get winds of well over 100 mph (the strongest was in the Cairngorms – 177mph)  so it’s the perfect testing ground for Trailstars!

PostedJun 12, 2016 at 4:19 am

I bought one for  windy New Zealand  and  off trail trekking in the Rockies.  I cant say enough of how much i love this shelter.  What I love about it over a tent  , it being so completely  storm protected, yet being able to see outside  with either a large doorway, with a pointy end panel   120cm pitch, or a mid panel smaller door  pitch. When i go to sleep, no matter how windy and serious the storm is raging outside, I NEVER  feel like my  structure will  collapse, rip or flap itself into oblivion. Scrunched up into the small sil sack, I am ASTOUNDED  how small and light it is for such a bomber  storm  (and fine weather)  abode.  My daughter and I did 8 days off trail in the Sawtooths around 8-9000 ‘  and love this rig. We’ve liked it over the 9’ square tipi we took to the Winds , mainly because  of the views it affords. and no rain dripping inside if the door is open .  We just bought another MLD yellow one to  take when were not in the olive brown stealth  one we origionally got.   Beautiful, atshetic , and functional.  Cool. The sil seems to be the best ive  seen yet.   Living in Australia , and buying everything online sightunseen is a gamble.   Good when it works out  like this!!!!  Dave

Matthew S BPL Member
PostedJun 12, 2016 at 9:54 pm

I’ve owned the trailstar for 4 years and this is the best way to pitch it.

https://unboundroutes.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/20150709_112910.jpg

Why? Because it has tons of venting with elevated poles and lengthened guy lines. But if weather rolls in you can just lower the inside pole, jump out and shorten the guylines, then shorten the beak pole (see below.)

Trailstar

If weather looked really windy, I would pitch it in the standard way, to maximize the aerodynamics.

Pete M BPL Member
PostedJun 13, 2016 at 12:57 am

Mathew, it looks pretty similar then to what the OP is thinking of: three of the five sides pitched as a three-sided square/pyramid, with the two remaining sides forming the beak, which has an edge seam running down the centre of it. This is then tied out to a pole to form as high or low door as one wants.

Pete M BPL Member
PostedJun 13, 2016 at 6:54 pm

Nice Shane. Really show the tarp versatility of the Trailstar.

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