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JMT with kids/teens

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Aaron Madsen BPL Member
PostedFeb 8, 2016 at 3:53 am

I am currently eyeing a JMT SOBO in Aug/Sept 2017 with my two oldest sons, who will be 12 and 13 at the time. I have quite a bit of backpacking experience, but this would be by far our most ambitious trip. We backpack together 4-6 times/yr, and they have been on trips lasting up to a week with 6-7 miles/day of fairly difficult terrain, with our most recent being the Teton Crest Trail last Sept. The will be 12 year old is an overachiever who loves to hike, and is totally excited about the opportunity. He’s done a couple of day hikes in the 15-20 mile range, and so I’m not concerned about his ability to complete the trip in the least. The 13 year old thinks he wants to go, but is really more into the fishing and the camping, than the hiking. Physically, I’m sure he’s capable of it, but I worry a bit about the attitude/mental aspect with him.

I have a couple of more intense trips planned for this summer and next of 4-5 days, covering 40+ miles in the Trinity Alps, with similar elevation gain to what we will experience on the JMT, just to make sure that they can hack it, and that they want to hack it. As much as I would love to take this trip with both of them, if I’m dealing with a whiny 13 year old after only a couple of 10 mile days, I’m going to ask him to reconsider whether he really wants to go on the trip.

My plan is to take a month off for the trip, trying to start around mid August (assuming I can get a permit), try to average 10 miles per day, and take a rest day once a week or so just to recover, relax, and do some extra fishing. I’ll probably take advantage of every reasonable resupply along the way just to keep the packs light, and will have my wife and father hiking in at Onion Valley to be our last resupply, and finish out the trip with us.

I am looking for any additional advice for those who have completed the JMT, especially with teenagers. Unfortunately, I don’t have the time off to take any longer through-hikes between now and then, probably just a couple of 4-5 day trips, but would welcome any advice/tips from those with far more through-hiking experience than myself.

Matthew / BPL Moderator
PostedFeb 8, 2016 at 6:14 am

My son and I hiked the JMT SOBO from 6/15/15 to 7/5/15. He was 12 at the time. It was a fantastic trip and a memorable experience. He shares my enthusiasm for hiking andĀ camping. We started combiningĀ those two interests a couple of years ago discovering that we enjoyed backpacking and do it well together.

A student recommended we watch Mile, Mile and a Half a while back. It sat in my Netflix queue for probably six months and we finally watched it in early October of 2014. A few weeks later while car camping he started crying one morning as we enjoyed a cup of coffee/hot chocolate at sunrise. He said he had something difficult to tell me and that he was afraid to tell me. My heart stopped. I thought of all the possible things he was going to tell me and I manned up an assured him whatever it was that I would do my best to help him. You cannot believe my relief when he finally said “Dad, I want to hike the JMT with you. Promise me we will do it together.” And stuck out his hand to make me shake his hand and promise. It took all of .00000002 seconds for me to make up my mind on that one.

I think your older boy should be excited about the trip and able to bust out long days. Hiking and backpacking involves suffering. You have to want to do it. It’s a long and difficult trip if you don’t want it. He shouldn’t go if it’s not right for him.

Matthew / BPL Moderator
PostedFeb 8, 2016 at 6:15 am

idea: maybe the older boy should join for a few days. Tuolumne to Red’s?

Matthew / BPL Moderator
PostedFeb 8, 2016 at 6:20 am

We almost bailed at Taboose Pass. My son said he’d had enough and wanted to get home to his regular life. I had a very tough decision to make: should I listen to his desire to get home or should I encourage him to push through? Luckily, we had two very nice trail friends that we had hiked with on and off since the beginning of the trip and they really helped him tallĀ it out at that trail junction. My wife had sent a message via my InReach saying “there is nothing here at home that will compare to the sense of satisfaction of completing the trail” that was influential to him as well.

 

Nick Gatel BPL Member
PostedFeb 8, 2016 at 11:26 am

Each one of us is different. Each of our kids are different. My son has always enjoyed backpacking and he likes to push himself. My daughter never enjoyed it much. They are two years apart. So we did a lot of camping together, which both enjoyed. My son and I backpacked together.

If the three of you do a trip together it is best to do a trip that everyone will thoroughly enjoy.

Listen to your kids.

Aaron Madsen BPL Member
PostedFeb 10, 2016 at 11:51 am

Thank you all for your experiences and advice. I think I’ll have a pretty good idea of how things are going to go once we get out on the trail a few times this summer. I will definitely have to sit down and watch mile, mile and a half with them. Worst case scenario, if he doesn’t want to do the whole thing, he can come down with my wife and my father and do the last 40-50 miles with us.

PostedFeb 18, 2016 at 11:21 am

Sounds like an Awesome family trip. I offer full support and props.

Advice from a 28 y/male without kids.. haha take it for what it’s (not) worth.

I think you should definitely continue to have a serious talk with both boys separately. Explain the mental side of a 2-3 week excursion and the commitment that’s needed. As a potential parent, I’d frame it as a this is full commitment, no bailing out. Tell them to take some timeĀ to decide before hand if they want to go. “If we start it, then we’re finishing it.” If someone breaks a leg, then we’ll come back and finish it but if we’re doing this we’re doing it.

Potential tips to help get them thru it. Although I’m assuming the trail is 100% beautiful. Try to pick out something in particular the boys can “look forward too” every couple days. T

A friend of mine coached several championship little league teams (back in the 80s). A lot of his neighborhood kids went on to play college or professional ball. He said one of the great things about youth is that they don’t have artificial notions built up yet about what they can and can’t do. So He was able get them to run 6-7 miles after practice as if it were normal for their age range. He also gave the kids the decision at the beginning of the season, do want to have a chill/fun season or win the championship? This helped frame their mind that the coach was helping them achieve their goals rather than torturing them.

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