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Is packing tape effective in the long term for repairing cuben gear?

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PostedSep 5, 2016 at 10:01 am

As the title suggests, I want to know if packing tape been found to be effective in the long term for repairing cuben fiber gear.

My zpacks cuben fiber pillow stuff sack and bear bag are starting to delaminate after considerable use.

I have seen some youtube videos suggesting they can be repaired using packing tape, but I wonder how well it holds up,

If not packing tape, what other options would you recommend? Obviously cuben tape is available, but expensive. What else? Duct tape? Tenacious tape?

Thanks for any input.

Hoosier T BPL Member
PostedSep 5, 2016 at 11:12 am

How much tape do you really need? A 54″ piece of cuben tape is A LOT of tape to have for minor repairs and is only $3.50. Yea, if you look at price per inch, it’s “expensive” compared to packing or duct tape but how much do you really need? Also, keep in mind that cuben tape doesn’t have a high cost per inch because it’s backed with cuben. That’s only about 30-40% of the cost. Cuben tapes are made with high quality (industrial) 3m vhb transfer tapes which are quite expensive. It’s that adhesive that makes them bond so well to cuben. The cuben back is just for show and a little added strength since it has great tensile strength.

PostedSep 5, 2016 at 11:27 am

Who’s packing tape?  3M, Duck, Costco, or generic?

How thick, what adhesive, what substrate material?

For how long – weeks, months, or years?

Versus buying repair tape from Zpacks.  Duh.

JCH BPL Member
PostedSep 5, 2016 at 11:36 am

What Hoosier T and Greg said.

Cuben shelters are constructed with Cuben tape and it is pretty much permanent (or as permanent as anything Cuben is) and thus is actually quite cheap in the final analysis.

PostedSep 5, 2016 at 11:39 am

I used packing tape on a tarp that got punctured from a hammock spreader bar.  The small repair held up for the remainder of the trip, and many more trips (2 years).  Then after a night of VERY high wind, I noticed the tape was peeling up on the corners.    Once you use the tape, it is not easy to remove.  I was afraid to peel the tape off completely, thinking it could damage the tarp further, so I carefully trimmed the loose corners back. I didn’t try using rubbing alcohol to remove the glue residue from the tape, although I think it would have worked.  But I am not sure what solvents ware safe for cuben.

If I had the time to order some cuben tape, it would have made a longer lasting, and slightly neater repair.  But if you are in need of a quick fix when there are no towns around, clear packing tape will do in a pinch.  This is for a  small hole, I don’t know if a longer tear would hold up to a packing tape repair.

Hoosier T BPL Member
PostedSep 5, 2016 at 12:08 pm

One alternative is the Mylar tape from quest outfitters. It’s $1.49/yard so a tad cheaper. They will also adjust shipping before charging you so the default shipping rate you’ll see isn’t what you’ll pay. It’ll likely end up under $3 to ship some Mylar tape.

The other alternative is I have some extra .51 cuben in green and plenty of 1″ 3m 9482 tape. Or if you want super tough repair tape/patches I have 1.43 cuben in both blue and green I can make it with. I can make you some tape or patches and could ship it to you cheaply, probably $2.80. I started making my own because I would end up needing some for a project and Zpacks takes a week or more to ship, even if just ordering some tape. They’re charging $.064 per square inch or tape so I would charge the same. Just throwing that out there.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedSep 5, 2016 at 3:44 pm

It all depends on the adhesive used. Cheap Chinese tape will last a few weeks and then peel off. Brands like 3M will last a lot longer – and be marginally more expensive. Very complex stuff, adhesive tape – a mfr once explained to me just how they make the stuff. VERY complex! While we just expect it to stick.

Cheers

PostedSep 5, 2016 at 7:04 pm

I’ve used a cuben fiber repair kit from ZPacks.  Forget exactly which, but I used it to patch up my HLG pack after it picked up a few small holes.  It’s held since then.

David Thomas BPL Member
PostedSep 5, 2016 at 8:47 pm

Specifically packing tape, like Roger, I’d point out that the name-brand stuff (3M) works better and lasts longer than the generic stuff.  I’ve had functional lifetimes of between 6 months and 10 years.  Indoor use of name brands going the longest.  Off-brands outside in the UV lasting the shortest time.

I don’t have the decades of experience with them as other options, since they’re new, but the Gorilla brand of “duct tape” in a darker gray has worked very well for me over the last few years.  It is stiffer than standard duct tape and that can be a downside for some clothing repairs.

Other very long-lasting options come from building supplies.  Vapor-barrier tape (red, smooth, very sticky) lasts for decades inside your walls.  Pipe-wrap tape in 20- and 40-mil is used to wrap iron pipe before it is buried and lasts a long time, even in the UV.  It is closest to electrical tape on steroids.  Wider (2″ and 4″), thicker, and stickier.  If someone wrapped padding around their Jeep’s roll cage, this would be the ideal stuff to apply over the foam layer.

But for clothing, I like something that is very sticky and yet very flexible so the garment doesn’t get stiff in the area of the repair.  Off-the-shelf rip-stop nylon repair tape is pretty good as a field repair and then just stitch the perimeter of the patch and seam-seal it when you get home (and definitely before you launder the item).

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