- May 29, 2016 at 2:22 pm #3405463idesterBPL Member
@doug-iLocale: The Cascades
I’m not into mountaineering, I’m not a climber. Don’t intend to become one. But this winter I have been doing some day trips with my brother which include some pretty steep, snow covered traverses, not much ice (on which, if I had fallen, I would have traveled quite some distance, and probably into trees, if I couldn’t stop myself). Wouldn’t be too hard to fall since I’m usually only wearing microspikes instead of crampons. I know my trekking poles wouldn’t be much help in such a scenario.
So I’d appreciate any recommendations on an ice axe mainly as a ‘walking’ axe, not a climbing axe.
Thanks.May 29, 2016 at 3:12 pm #3405470Simon KentonBPL Member
Camp Corsa. Light and, if you find a deal, you can get it for under $100May 29, 2016 at 3:32 pm #3405475James holdenBPL Member
camp corsa nanotech …
for sizing hold the axe down by yr side … it should just come down to yr ankles
you can always get it shorter (if you use it mostly on steeper stuff) and want to go a bit lighter …
if youre going to chop snow (for tents or steps) get one with a burlier steel head … petzl literide or glacier are decently light and “full axes”
;)May 29, 2016 at 3:50 pm #3405481James holdenBPL Member
oh and dont underestimate some of these “old school” skills … which are actually very applicable to hikers with minimal gear
the old school mountaineers didnt have crampons, or they were shiet ones …
step chopping is something every hiker with an axe should know … especially as they might have no crampons or just UL walking spikes
;)May 29, 2016 at 11:53 pm #3405600William ChiltonBPL Member
I’ve never used one, so can’t recommend it from that point of view, but the Grivel Condor (trekking pole with an ice axe blade for self arrest) might be good for what you need. Black Diamond also make something similar.May 30, 2016 at 9:39 am #3405662Link .BPL Member
@annapurnaMay 30, 2016 at 9:58 am #3405670Bob MoulderBPL Member
@bobmny10562Locale: Westchester County, NY
+1 Nanotech for the steel pick and spike.
I have the reg Corsa and can report that the aluminum pick was quite dinged and blunted after very little use on hard ice — one time up and down the chute on Lion Head at Mt. Washington. And it really doesn’t have a spike.May 30, 2016 at 12:26 pm #3405708idesterBPL Member
@doug-iLocale: The Cascades
Thanks for the thoughts all, and thanks for the video Eric. A friend is going to give me an old Grivel Mont Blanc, so I’ll start there since it’s free. :-) If it doesn’t work for me your suggestions will help my purchase decision.May 30, 2016 at 12:59 pm #3405714Jonathan ShefftzBPL Member
@jshefftz1Locale: Western Mass.
Ski/trekking poles with a self-arrest grip (i.e., BD Whippet & Grivel Condor) are only for stopping yourself once you’re already falling — they won’t keep you from falling in the first place anymore than regular trekking poles would. (And if you’re using the self-arrest pick to dig into moderate-angle snowfields while hiking, then you’re doing something very very wrong…)
By contrast, the spike and CE-rated shaft on an ice axe can be used for self-belay to keep you from falling in the first place. The spike on the Nanotech is indeed far better than on the Corsa, but the Corsa would be fine for what’s contemplated here. (The Nanotech pick is also much sharper than on the Corsa, but I’m not sure why the pick would see any use on the Lion Head winter hiking trail, unless something else if being referenced here?)
Some links including reviews:Jun 12, 2016 at 8:50 pm #3408504Will ElliottBPL Member
@elliott-willLocale: Juneau, AK
As a whippet owner I would get:
Black Diamond Ultra Distance Pole
any random Black Diamond pole tip with the snow basket
50cm Camp Corsa
Use boiling water to switch the tips on the poles from the summer only stock basket to the snow basket. Then carry the ice ax between your pack and your shoulder blades for easy access. A whippet is really heavy, even if you mod it as follows: get the one section carbon lowers from their other poles and cut to 115cm.
Going the Corsa / pole route, you have almost a real ice ax, and a real pair of poles.
Whippets are great for skiing.Jun 13, 2016 at 3:25 am #3408540John S.BPL Member
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