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How will Trail Designs stop this?

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Oct 29, 2018 at 12:39 am #3561643

Roger Caffin
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@rcaffin
Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

Hum … Aluminium pot … I wonder if those ‘grooves’ are simply a witness mark from the die used to shape the pot? Essentially zero depth. Could make sense.

Cheers

Oct 29, 2018 at 12:51 am #3561646

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

These bowls are made by the same company:

Oct 29, 2018 at 12:57 am #3561649

Roger Caffin
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@rcaffin
Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

Dan – do those bowls have genuine ridges at the bottom? Sure looks like it.

Cheers

Oct 29, 2018 at 1:09 am #3561651

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Sure does look like it. I snipped that photo from a youtube video.

Oct 29, 2018 at 11:41 pm #3561743

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Got this message from the seller:

Hello, dear friend, as our product is purely handmade, it takes about 7 days to prepare the goods. Please wait patiently,thank you

Nov 1, 2018 at 4:20 pm #3562181

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

China says my order has been shipped today, China Post Air Mail. Let you know when it arrives.

Nice service so far.

Nov 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm #3562194

Todd Stough
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@brewguy

I have had nothing but good experience through ali express. some things take a while to get here but the service is great. Several times things have not fit properly and we have full refunds, it has been great.

Nov 1, 2018 at 8:49 pm #3562209

Bill in Roswell
BPL Member

@roadscrape88-2
Locale: Roswell, GA, USA

Actually when ordering a Caldera Cone from Traildesigns you can specify which stove you want, the 10-12 or the Kojin. I use the 10-12 and cone setup with an Evernew 900 pot when boiling for 2 people. The Kojin I use for solo trips with the cone and Evernew Pasta Pot small. Rand has been awesome to work with when I decided to change the pot setup after I had already ordered. That is a great advantage of working with a small shop that can easily accommodate order changes.

As for patenting windscreens/cones, the old ZenStoves website has a lengthy article on the development history of windscreens/cones: http://zenstoves.net/PotStands.htm

Nov 16, 2018 at 1:10 pm #3564385

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Package is moving well:

our item has been processed through our facility in ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS) at 7:36 pm on November 15, 2018.

Nov 16, 2018 at 4:52 pm #3564421

Gregory Stein
BPL Member

@tauneutrino
Locale: Upper Galilee

All this is really sad. At least I feel so. But I think it is irrational me.

I got to know folks at those cottage companies. I talked to them personally. I really really value their inventions and I’m happy to pay for them.

Tim at EE got me into quilts. I still use my first quilt and it’s live and kicking like a beast. Amazing piece of gear. Now I see that quilts are made by Chinese manufacturers. Also available from aliexpress. As far as I can afford quality products of the companies I had a pleasure to purchase from, I will never buy these items from AE. Same goes for TD – I have 2 Sidewinders which are heavily used. I think I’m the first who had their cone in Israel.

But if I was a newcomer into all this stuff, without those relations developed with the actual inventors… God knows if I would order from AE if that was much cheaper.

Nov 22, 2018 at 1:35 am #3565313

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Package arrived today. Excellent craftsmanship, am well pleased with delivery and product. No stopping China, the UK and Japan ;)

Nov 22, 2018 at 1:49 am #3565315

Franco Darioli
Spectator

@franco
Locale: Gauche, CU.

So, what about those concentric circles at the bottom ?

Nov 22, 2018 at 3:03 pm #3565349

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Franco, I ordered the kit behind door #1 :-) It has the Toaks 900ml pot.

Nov 22, 2018 at 6:35 pm #3565369

Pedestrian
BPL Member

@pedestrian

No stopping China, the UK and Japan ;)

Really? Try telling your President that……I thought we were going to win BIG….

Nov 22, 2018 at 6:40 pm #3565370

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Really? Try telling your President that…

I did, he bought the kit with the aluminum pot.

Nov 23, 2018 at 9:45 pm #3565490

Franco Darioli
Spectator

@franco
Locale: Gauche, CU.

Nov 24, 2018 at 2:38 pm #3565545

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Fear not, the concentric ringed pots are available in Heaven :-)

Can’t stop it :-)

Nov 24, 2018 at 3:06 pm #3565548

Stormin
Spectator

@stormin-stove-systems
Locale: East Anglia

Ah, but Dan, this has no patent.

Nov 24, 2018 at 5:26 pm #3565578

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Ah, but Dan, this has no patent.

In that case, we can gear up to make them by the thousands/millions

I’ll be making some kits up that look similar to yours. Thanks for the ideas

Nov 24, 2018 at 6:32 pm #3565592

Stormin
Spectator

@stormin-stove-systems
Locale: East Anglia

Ah but Dan, it does have copyright.

Nov 24, 2018 at 6:41 pm #3565594

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

Ah but Dan, it does have copyright.

Patents, copyrights………they don’t matter ……..Thanks for the ideas

Nov 24, 2018 at 7:02 pm #3565602

Stormin
Spectator

@stormin-stove-systems
Locale: East Anglia

😈

Dec 24, 2018 at 12:21 pm #3569919

rmeurant
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@rmeurant
Locale: Laniakea

stent: a tubular support placed temporarily inside a blood vessel, canal, or duct to aid healing or relieve an obstruction.

I’m going to hazard a guess that in this case, it is a Ti stake or peg, originally used here horizontally to support the pot; but discontinued with redesign of the cone. In other words, now abstent.

Dec 24, 2018 at 3:33 pm #3569936

DAN-Y
BPL Member

@zelph2

“In other words, now” abstent “
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