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How to typify use case of silpoly rain jackets

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PostedJul 5, 2022 at 11:25 pm

Hi everyone,

First post here.

I regularly visited the Scottish highlands before my more UL days, first wearing my 2.5l PU coated North Face HyVent, then my 60D Fjallraven Keb eco shell PU membrane. Got into backpacking light without revisiting wetter and colder areas, going to a (2L?) Columbia outdry Ex Eco jacket (can’t find the denier) with the familiar microporous membrane, and finally going to making a 20D 1.1ozy RSBTR silpoly rain jacket in the style of the Yamatomichi long Hoodie or the Sierra Designs Cagoule.

When I wore the silpoly jacket last April in Utah during an afternoon of steady cold rain and wind, I felt very cold wearing my Patagonia tropic comfort hoodie and Argon 67 7d Skylight gear wind jacket underneath. The fabric itself provided shelter from the rain, but zero insulative value and even felt like it was actively withdrawing warmth from my body. (I was reminded of this effect the first times I was in colder wind or rain with my Outdry jacket where I was trying to use it as a wind jacket, but let’s leave that one out of the equation because it has a breathable component to it as well).

Where I hated my 3L Fjallraven wetting out and completely soaking me from the inside, I loved that it didn’t continuously dump out my body heat. My silpoly jacket however had a weird characteristic of giving me a cold sweat: zero air permeability made for a stuffiness in rain that made me sweat (luckily I’m not a heavy sweater), but the uber thin fabric that was hit with water was extracting warmth like crazy. I had to bring an aggressive pace to keep from not getting dangerously cold.

Can you help me characterize what happened here? What should I grab when I’m expecting 40-50F with prolonged wind and rain? Does a silpoly rain jacket only shine in warm, sudden downpours? Does a forecast of colder rain and wind ask for a higher denier face fabric, or maybe for adding an active insulation piece, or both? Is high breathability in a rain jacket even what’s best in cold and windy conditions (in case of my outdry)?

I’d love to hear your thoughts and experiences.

Greetings from NL

simon t BPL Member
PostedJul 7, 2022 at 4:43 am

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.  If it’s wet and your being active then the cooling effect will keep you from overheating and reduce sweating.

Why not just consider your jacket as rain protection only and carry another layer to go underneath to provide warmth when required?

I’ve experienced the same cooling effect with my Outdry jacket.  In winter I carry a thin synthetic puffy hoody (Rab Cirrus flex) which has stretchy breathable side panels.  In spring I found that just a sun hoody underneath the Outdry to be enough since it covers the same footprint as the jacket… if you have a t shirt on underneath, your arms feel wet but are bone dry when you go to check.

For colder conditions, something like the rab cirrus flex might pair well with a silpoly jacket as the breathable section would line up with pit zips.

Your setup had 2 thin layers underneath your jacket so I’m guessing there was thermal bridging between you and the cold jacket, you need something that will keep a gap when it gets cold. Like a light breathable fleece or synthetic puffy with vents.

 

Dan BPL Member
PostedJul 7, 2022 at 11:20 am

Agree a light fleece layer could certainly be appropriate in those conditions, depending on how hard you’re working. Worth a try.

PostedJul 9, 2022 at 10:04 pm

“Why not just consider your jacket as rain protection only and carry another layer to go underneath to provide warmth when required?”

Agree.  What’s important about a WPB rain jacket is how well it stops rain and transmits water vapor.  For insulation, wear an insulating garment, usually a grid fleece because it is very light, and low weight is always a goal.  If we try to make one garment do everything, it is bound to come up short in some respects.

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