How do you manage moisture transfer in an integral pitch double wall tent?

Don’t worry about it?

If the inner gets wet,  it’ll dry pretty once re-erected. A wipe down is all that’s needed.

I’ve used various all in one pitchers. Currently own Tarptent Scarp and Stratospire,  laser Photon. All never seperated whilst on trips.

If time/weather allows, before packing, I’ll wipe some condensation off from inside, but more often don’t bother. I’ll shake off as much excess water as I can and pack it up all in one.

But really,  it’s not a big issue. The inners dry quickly enough.

I live in the UK.  Outside of high summer, some dampness is unavoidable,  it’s a question of tolerance and management.

+1 on what Mole said.

OK good to hear, thank you

If it bothers you it takes about a minute (and  mean around 60 sec) , to detach the inner from the SS2.

If it takes you any longer let me know and I’ll show you how…

I have detached the inner of the Notch a couple of times but never with the SS2, but it can be done very quickly.

The key thing to avoid mildew is to dry the tent with a day or two of getting home.  Carrying it between campsites where it is folded up wet for 12 hours or so isn’t a problem.

In cold (<45F), persistently wet conditions ventilation is your friend. However, if there isn’t a steady breeze and I find a considerable amount of condensation in the morning I unclip the inner of my Hillie and pack that separately from the outer tent. It takes an extra 5 minutes for my Allak and would be much quicker for the Unna.

To add to what Mark said, better to let dry for a week

Dry out your gear even if it doesn’t appear to be wet

Ventilation is key. But having two people inside in the evening helps dry the inner fairly well. Otherwise, don’t worry about it.

And I think i have disconnected the inner from the outer once in my life – and never again after that,.

Drying the tent and all other gear once home – absolutely! And carefully.

Cheers

I carry a small square of a shammy towel for absorbing water from a car. It weighs 0.9oz and I keep it in a ziplock. I’ll shake the outside of the tent to release water droplets (Tarptent Notch), and wipe the inside down as needed. I can squeeze out the shammy and use it several times, then allow it to dry in the external mesh pocket of my backpack. But I never bother separating the tent during take down. If the tent is wet, I’ll put it in the pack but outside of my drybag liner. Then set it up wet and let it dry.

Wipe down with a small sponge – yes indeed. Very effective, and very light. We do that often.

Cheers

I never detach my Hilleberg tents as it’s just not needed and becomes a pain in the butt to do on a daily basis while on a long trip.  Remember, you have to reattach the inner at your next camp.  On my Keron this means fitting small toggles into small rings 33 times.  Not gonna happen.

Take it down, shake it off, roll or stuff in the sack, set up again, repeat as needed.  Hope the whole wad isn’t coated in frozen ice whereby stuffing it becomes a Cursing Event.  Oh and use your mouth on occasion to warm pole joints so they separate for packing.

The only time I separate the two is on the last day of the trip when I leave the woods and go home to hang each part separately.

use your mouth on occasion to warm pole joints so they separate for packing.
A bit of silicone spray (before the trip) works wonders for this.

Cheers

it depends on the tent …

for example the inner on my trekkertent can be taken down in about a minute or so … its 2 toggles and then 4 bungees loops to the stakes … so i take it apart separately even when its not raining as the setup takes only marginally longer when set up seperately

on the other hand something like a TN laser comp … thats a bit of a biatch to set up the inner separately …

there is something to be said for tents that are exceptionally easy to up the inner and outer seperately … especially in non stop rain where leaving the inner attached to the outer and carrying in an external pocket will mean the entire thing gets soaked

not to mention that you might want to put up the outer quickly separately for lunch breaks …. works great with mid and tarp style tents

;)

Roger says—

use your mouth on occasion to warm pole joints so they separate for packing.
A bit of silicone spray (before the trip) works wonders for this.

In years past I used silicone on the pole joints and found over time the lubricant eating away at my shock cords resulting in much faster wear (broke a shock cord on a trip last year) and so now I don’t let anything near my poles . . . . except my warming mouth.  Wait, that doesn’t sound right . . .

Plus, silicone picks up alot of dirt and debris on the pole joint.

I never detach my Hilleberg tents as it’s just not needed and becomes a pain in the butt to do on a daily basis while on a long trip.  Remember, you have to reattach the inner at your next camp.  On my Keron this means fitting small toggles into small rings 33 times.  Not gonna happen.

Agreed, with a Keron or Kaitum the disadvantage of the three pole setup is a lot of extra toggles to remove and reattach. But the OP has an Unna, which is a lot more manageable. I will say that in Colorado I rarely have to detach my inner fully. Usually I can access the inside of the flysheet to wipe off any condensation by undoing a handful of toggles from the walls but leave the floor attached.

Hi Tipi

I suspect we are talking about two different products. I am talking about silicone waterproofing spray, which will ‘dry’ on the ferrules but remain water-repellent. Would I be right in thinking you are referring to silicone grease instead? If so, I agree that it will collect dirt and debris and cause problems. But the spray does not.

Cheers

Thanks for all the replies. I can’t wait to test things myself. I don’t have much to add as I’ve been using a single wall Tarptent until now.