- Jul 30, 2020 at 10:55 pm #3667685Christopher RBPL Member
Just curious, do you usually bring a pullover type fleece and an insulated jacket/hoody backpacking. I currently use a Northface 1/4 zip fleece and an Arc’teryx atom lt hoody. Looking to cut some weight, but not sure if I should give up one or the other. I like both, but not really sure how necessary they both are. I’ve never left home without both, and always use both, so I am hesitant to let one go. Thoughts would be appreciated.
I know the weather largely dictates what I use, but lets assume a long distance hike where I don’t know what the weather will be.Jul 31, 2020 at 6:06 am #3667708Mike MBPL Member
When I’m longer trip, particularly when there is a strong chance of cooler weather- I bring both.
Not sure what your fleece weighs, but I went with a Kuiu Peloton hoody- 5 oz in size large, couldn’t find anything lighter. It’s the perfect weight for a mid-layer on the move, nice as an insulating layer in warmer weather and makes a good sleep piece if the temps drop below expected.
You could probably shed a few ounces on the LT, maybe something along the lines of EE’s Torrid- 8 oz vs 12 oz.
But yeah, in Montana I typically bring both.Jul 31, 2020 at 8:13 am #3667713Todd RaishBPL Member
I use the exact same set up as Christopher R: Northface TKA 1/4 zip fleece and an Arc’teryx Atom LT hoody. The environmental conditions dictate your layers. If you hike in the Rockies between Colorado north to Jasper, Alberta, or into the British Columbia Rockies, then you need both. My third piece of layering is a Rab Momentum jacket, made from 3 layer eVent. These three provide enough options for warmth and rain protection. Worn together, you can ride out any storm.
While its always good practice to pare down your kit and take only what you actually use, you also need to account for Mother Nature. She doesn’t care and she doesn’t have to. <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>Taking the North Face fleece just might save your life</span>, unless you plan your routes such that you are always one day hike from the car.
Further, we have all hiked routes where someone packed “stupid light” and didn’t bring the proper layers, so I loaned my TNF TKA to them, otherwise that hiker would be miserable.
Good luck on trail.Jul 31, 2020 at 8:25 am #3667714HkNewmanBPL Member
@hknewmanLocale: Western US
Puffers are more efficient warmth-wise but fleece is better if a hiker gets cold on the move. Getting a typical long trail shake-down, the advice is choose one or the other.
Been thinking about getting vest puffer or making a “microfleece” vest out of a Powerdry with ruined sleeve.Jul 31, 2020 at 8:35 am #3667716Mike MBPL Member
Getting a typical long trail shake-down, the advice is choose one or the other.
that’s certainly not everyones advice; I’m sure there are a few areas and times when you could get by with one or the other, but plenty of places and times where both are appropriateJul 31, 2020 at 9:11 am #3667719HkNewmanBPL Member
@hknewmanLocale: Western US
[when] both are appropriate
Think if it gets even a little “colder”, basically winter storms, some form of both is warranted.
Many don’t but then there’s the strategy of trying to outrun the storm to shelter or lower elevations.Jul 31, 2020 at 1:53 pm #3667749Paul SBPL Member
I always bring a thin fleece (Mtn. hardwear “Microchill fleece hoody, 8oz.) and a puff jacket. Ever spent an unexpected night out? Bring both, always. So little weight for so much warmth and health insurance. :-)Jul 31, 2020 at 2:13 pm #3667755Alex WallaceBPL Member
@feetfirstLocale: Sierra Nevada North
Weekend warrior here.
For typical 3 day/2 night trips, during summer, with a solid forecast calling for daytime highs above 60 and nighttime lows above 40, I’ll just bring one or the other (usually the puffy). However, for my few week long trips, and especially so in the fringe season, I’ll bring both.
Majority of my trips are at elevation (9-14K ft.) and having a fleece while hiking the day’s last pass makes a huge difference. Especially if it’s windy and/or there’s rain/hail. Then, hopefully with camp setup, as the sun sets and freezing temps approach, being able to add the puffy allows an extra hour or two of time before jumping in the sleeping bag is necessary.
Being able to enjoy the alpenglow and a bit of stargazing makes the extra weight worth it.Jul 31, 2020 at 2:29 pm #3667758Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
synthetic (like atom II) weighs twice as much for the same warmth as down
fleece is more like 10 times as much weight for the same warmth
I only wear fleece hat and gloves because they’re so little area it doesn’t matter, they weigh little even in fleece
I don’t wear fleece jacket – for the same weight, synthetic is much warmer
Fleece and synthetic both perform pretty good when wet, down not at all, so I always bring some synthetic insulation just in case I get wet
For real warmth in cold weather I’ll also bring some downAug 1, 2020 at 12:12 am #3667845Christopher RBPL Member
Thanks all. Appreciate it. I didn’t mention that i also carry my Zeta AR as a shell. I could definitely lose some weight there, but I consider a rain shell a must, and I’m hesitant to shell out big bucks on another shell. I’ll probably jsut get a frogg togg rainshell.Aug 1, 2020 at 12:19 am #3667846Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Down jacket for high altitudes, 3 season. Tried my light fleece vest and it wasn’t enough.Aug 1, 2020 at 5:54 am #3667847Erica RBPL Member
If you never wear all 3 layers at the same time, one is extra.
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