- Jan 31, 2019 at 12:14 am #3575932
Companion forum thread to: First Impressions: Black Diamond Glidelite Ski (“Snow Trekkers”) Review (Video)
I put together a 4-minute video montage with my initial thoughts about the Black Diamond Glidelite skis that includes footage from both tracked and untracked trails, with inclines up to about 15 degrees.Jan 31, 2019 at 1:55 am #3575945
Jeff McWilliamsBPL Member
Up in Munising, Michigan, we have a lot of ice climbs along Lake Superior that are a far distance from the trail head, or even down an unplowed road followed by some additional trail hiking.
Making the slog into those climbs with a pack full of ice climbing gear can be tedious. I can’t help but wonder if skiing in with these vs traditional Nordic XC Skis wouldn’t work better. I could *probably* just pop my mountaineering/climbing boots right into the bindings.
My climbing boots are really rigid, though. They wouldn’t have the flex that a Nordic boot & binding would have, so I’m curious, but not 100% confident.
Jan 31, 2019 at 6:54 am #3575998
- This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by Jeff McWilliams.
Wild ExpedBPL Member
Interesting. Thanks Ryan. Have you tried the longer version with metal edge (or the similar length Altais with the metal edge)? Just wondering if it’s a matter of not being able to get an carve at all/ downhill or with any ice..
Jan 31, 2019 at 6:54 am #3575999
- This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by Wild Exped.
@jjmcwill Jeff – my very first foray into using a “trekking ski” was exactly for this – ice climbing approaches. For me, it was ice climbing in the Hyalite region of Montana.
My first setup was this: Dynafit 130cm skis with Dynafit bindings that mated to my lace-up Dynafit climbing/ski boots. It was a great setup.
I then evolved to Hoks, using a leather WPB boot in a universal binding, but the downhill performance was pretty scary!
I find that the BD Glidelite’s strike the balance I want between downhill and climbing.
For ice climbing, I’d be awfully tempted to ski in/out of the climbs in trail running shoes with these skis, and just carry my boots.
That said, I’m very curious to see if I could rig my ice climbing boots (a set of leather insulated Scarpas) with a Dynafit toe and mount some Dynafit bindings on the metal-edged 147’s just to see how it would go!Jan 31, 2019 at 1:31 pm #3576015
Wow that looks fun!Jan 31, 2019 at 9:05 pm #3576081
Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Thanks for the video. Anyone who has used good snowshoes (ex. MSR Lightning Ascent) in deep, untracked snow can instantly see how much better these BD skis are for that travel. By “better” I mean less effort and much more speed.
As pictured the BD skis have a form of the old Balata style binding which fits almost any boot, from felt pacs to trail runners. Personally I’d get BD’s slightly longer metal edged version with a Voile’ release bindings and my Scarpa T3 boots for more control on turns. But well fitting Balata bindings like my Canadian Army version would work for felt pacs in below zero weather. To easily change between the two types of bindings one needs to have epoxied into the skis threaded inserts.Jan 31, 2019 at 11:53 pm #3576124
That is one happy dog.Feb 3, 2019 at 1:40 pm #3576542
Ken LarsonBPL Member
@kenlarsonLocale: Western Michigan
Are you wearing a gaitors over the Forty Below Light Energy TR overboots as I observe snaps and a yellow lower boot covering in the video, and the picture of the Forty Below Light Energy TR overboot shown in the link looks different?
ALSO….Have you tried different shoes with the ski bindings to compare fit and control with those skis?Feb 4, 2019 at 5:33 pm #3576726
@kenlarson – I use the “high gaiter” version of the 40 Below Light Energy TR overboots, so those gaiters are integrated with the overboot.
There is definitely a direct relationship between boot stiffness and ski control while going downhill.
Of course, softer shoes = more comfort on long days!Feb 11, 2019 at 11:45 am #3577884
Ari GrönlundBPL Member
Been using the OAC KAR 147 with steel edges for the past five years. Also used the AS HOK before. Have used the shorter and longer versions WAP 127 and GT 160… And the 140 is just perfect for pulling pulk and occasional downhill. Yes, I’m from Finland and the factory where these BD and OAC skis are made is just 20km away from my home ;-).
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