Finally moved to a large neoair xlite

Agreed.  And good observation about width vs. height for extra ounces.  Lots of folks complain about having to buy a pad longer than they need just for the extra width but the difference truly is minimal, even for us UL’ers.  Having the arms stay on is crucial for a comfortable and warm night.

Same here. 20″ are okay. 25″ is awesome. Can’t give up on comfort. Same with the pillow. I can make do, but nothing beats a purpose built fitting pillow.

Yup. Having my elbows slide off the 20×72″ pad when I’m on my back is annoying, though I am mostly a side sleeper and with careful positioning I can stay on a ‘regular’ pad okay. But the ‘large’ is definitely the shizzle and worth the small weight penalty.

yep. mainly a side sleeper and the Z-shape I make is wider than 20″. So much better on a 25″.

Sounds like a good idea. I was thinking about doing this before I switched to hammocking. I think I may do it anyway for trips above the treeline.

6’3″ and I embraced the long/wide and haven’t looked back. A good sleep is worth 4oz.

Why not trim the extra length?

Why not trim the extra length?

That will only save you 1-2 ounces, maybe a few more if you’re on the shorter side.  Not to mention void your warranty.  I think it only makes sense if you want to go wide torso length, which is a popular option and can save you 1/3 of the weight.

Not to mention void your warranty.

Which is awesome and one of the reasons a TAR xLite is totally worth the money.

BTW, I also switched to a LW xLite few years ago and never looked back…for all the reasons stated above.

AMEN! A good night’s sleep is certainly worth a few ounces.

I just got an REI FLASH Insulated air mattress (15 oz.) W/ Sea to Summit dry bag pump B/C I do Spring and Fall backpacking & hunting up to 10,000 ft. and need the warmth.

Hey, it’s one ounce lighter than my Prolite regular, my former UL mattress.  The dry bag pump doubles as a clothes bag for no weight penalty.