Sep 27, 2019 at 2:49 am #3611854
I am trying to cut my weight down, and would appreciate feedback. The gear list is what I use late spring to early fall. I mostly go the Sierra, and Trinity Alps. A few comments. I have a bad back, and I’ve had hip replacement surgery. I need the neo air x-lite to get enough flex in my back. I included the chair because I can’t sit on the ground after the hip replacement. If I’m going someplace where there will be something to sit on, I leave that at home. If it’s going to be stormy, I have an REI quarter dome 1 that I might bring (2 lbs 5 oz with titanium stakes). If it’s going to be much below freezing, I have an REI magma 10 sleeping bag that I bring (it only weighs 5 oz more that the Sierra Designs sleeping bag). Thanks for the helpSep 27, 2019 at 3:58 am #3611856Paul SumnerBPL Member
I’m planning a fall Sierra trip myself now. So, I did a bit of a comparison. One thing I generally bring that I don’t see is mitts, e.g., REI or MLD eVent, or Zpacks Vertice. I’ve been out and had my hands so cold they didn’t want to zip up zippers, etc. from hail/rain, so I think these are a must. Another thing I don’t see called out (maybe in there) is a good ziplock, etc. bag for the sawyer. I like to use one so I don’t get any water inside my bag when I put the sawyer in there for the night. I also add Wetfire tinder cubes for fall trips. Just my 2 cents.
It looks pretty well thought out.
As far as places to cut weight:
(1) Sleeping bag: you could move to a lighter bag or quilt and maybe save 4-8 oz. This would obviously be $$$. Note: I think you pad is already pretty minimal for fall use. You might want to boost w/ a 1/8″ it if its cold.
(2) You could save on the pack as well. Maybe even move down slightly to a 50L? HMG, SWD, etc. etc.
[/edit]Sep 27, 2019 at 9:00 pm #3611911
Paul. Thank you for the suggestions. I think that your additions are all good ones, and I’ve added them to my list. I’ve thought about trying a quilt, but it doesn’t seem to save much weight. The EE enigma 20 degree extra wide (which is what the size chart suggests) weighs almost 25 oz. Also, have thought about a different pack, but same thing with the pack, An arc haul with hip belt pockets and a couple of optional straps is pretty close to the granite gear pack. The gossamer gear mariposa is also close to 2 lbs. Maybe a lighter tent for times that I use the tent. Thought about getting a bivy, but not too sure about the condensation.Sep 28, 2019 at 10:02 am #3611956
I’ve thought about trying a quilt, but it doesn’t seem to save much weight.
Weight is NOT the only thing. I find a quilt gives me so much more room to move around than a sleeping bag of similar weight. It leaves me much more comfortable.
CheersSep 28, 2019 at 2:32 pm #3611963Paul SumnerBPL Member
Yes, it seems the weights are closer than I thought.
I’m with Roger on quilts, I definitely prefer them. The only downside is if you cowboy camp then they can be drafty, but much easier to regulate extra heat/more flexible temperature-wise as well as the comfort factor.
I use a bivy often, both a lightweight and an alpine style, in the Sierra. Problematic condensation happens but rarely. Mostly if I end up camp above treeline with a view of a clear sky or during rainy conditions w/ just the alpine bivy. BUT I tend to use a tent (with vestibule) in the fall because it is just so much more comfortable and practical if the weather takes a turn for the worse.Sep 29, 2019 at 4:16 pm #3612040Bruce TolleyBPL Member
@btolleyLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
In shoulder season (and winter) in the Sierra Nevada, I like to carry a bit of kit for emergency fire starting. I see that you have a pocket knife, one lighter, and one set of matches. I would add some form of fire starter either DIY such as vaseline soaked cotton balls, or some commercial product and probably a second lighter.Sep 29, 2019 at 8:04 pm #3612099David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
Definitely a second lighter (sometimes, that’s the only thing I have any redundancy of). Rather than the vaseline-soaked cotton balls that require some container to prevent making a mess, take a square or two of waxed paper. A few times, up a talus slope, high above any surface water, I’ve used a square of waxed paper or aluminum foil to direct dripping snowfield melt water into the mouth of my water bottle.Sep 29, 2019 at 9:48 pm #3612107
All this talk of vaseline-soaked cotton balls and so on: I have been very successful starting a fire with ‘wet’ wood using either my canister stove or a small bit of ESBIT.
CheersSep 29, 2019 at 9:53 pm #3612108MJ HBPL Member
But you can’t put the esbit on your lips if you run out of lip balm.Sep 29, 2019 at 10:13 pm #3612110David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
“you can’t put the esbit on your lips”
Robert Duvall can.
But, agreed, Roger, a canister stove makes a heck of a fire starter. I did that on a misty beach for an ocean-soaked wife.Sep 29, 2019 at 10:36 pm #3612112
@David: Yes, I had remembered that. And that is how I got this fire lit too:
Every other bit of timber was soggy.
(Grey Mare Hut, KNP, 2019)
CheersOct 1, 2019 at 8:07 pm #3612325
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