Downsizing the Tarptent Scrap 1

Look again at Tarptent’s offerings. I have a Moment DW that I really like for solo backpacking. Tarp tent also has several other light solo tents that are great shelters with good vestibules. In stormy weather a good vestibule is important for pack/pannier storage, for cooking and to keep the inner tent dry.

I’m confused on your weights for the Cirriforms? those are way over their listed weights. My 2p SW in .51 cuben and silnylon floor weighs 25.2 with guy lined in the stuff sack. Which is spot on with what they have listed.

@Hosser my weights are based on outer+inner+stakes+poles (not using trekking poles, riding a bicycle so need the poles), so for the 2P SW I have 30.3 (shelter)* + 3.7 (poles) +1.98 (stakes). For the stakes I used Zpacks weight of 0.22 ounces to have a consistent comparison whereas Yama lists 2.6 oz.

• This is as given on the Yama website.

Ah I see the listed 30.3 now. Click the link to “Build your Own”. I had Gen do a single #5 zipper on the front beak instead of two and went with .51 cuben for the fly and Sil for the floor. Like I said, it comes out to 25.2 on my scale minus poles and stakes. That puts it only 4 oz over the duplex and you get the benefits of a silnylon floor. Just my $.02.

@Eric I do go back to Tarptent but the weights are up there, at least for the models that appeal to me. The Moment DW is at my high end at 34oz, but on the positive side it is a lot cheaper.  My original short list had the Tarptent ProTrail on it but I am not overly excited by the exit/entry point at one end, preferring a side egress point.

The Notch looks a possibility but.

Thanks Hosser. I didn’t investigate the build your own … will do so now.

Never owned a Scarp, but I have owned a Stratospire 1 and a Notch. The former had a massive footprint for a 1P, but I loved the headroom afforded by the offset pole design. I switched to the Notch for more versatility in site selection, but I hated how I had to turn myself into a pretzel to get in and out of the thing.

These days I have a Hilleberg Enan, which is similar dimensionally to a Moment DW, but I maintain has a more practical inner tent door. My search for the ideal 1P shelter is over.

@Hosser look at the build your own I can see a saving of 2.9oz by going with a Cuben floor … any thoughts on why you did not choose that option?

@Hosser look at the build your own I can see a saving of 2.9oz by going with a Cuben floor … any thoughts on why you did not choose that option?

Cost, worse compression when packing, poor abrasion resistance. While I have owned an HMG Echo II inner and would trust cuben for a floor, it just wasn’t worth it to me to spend the extra money. Plus, I save a couple ounces not having to use a groundsheet with the Silnylon so it’s nearly a wash. Some people might not use a ground sheet with cuben but I’m not that brave. Cuben fly and Sil floor is the best of both worlds in my opinion. The most efficient/effective use of each material’s qualities.

Thanks @Hosser. I hadn’t considered the packability issue which is important to me.

This was also a major concern to me as well. While ordering the Cirriform, I was also in the midst of switching to a Zimmerbuilt Quickstep. The rest of my kit had become small, but my shelter was about to grow in pack size so I had to be careful. Combining Sil and cuben finds a good middle ground for compression. Gen is truly an amazing vendor as well. He normally includes a cylindrical stuff sack that is something crazy like 8×16. I told him this just wouldn’t work for my pack and he custom made me, at no charge, a rectangular stuff sack that would fit my front mesh pocket perfectly. I am so satisfied for the money I spent that it will be so hard to give anyone my money knowing the service he provides. He literally exchanged over 40 emails with me covering the details of exactly what I wanted.