- Oct 19, 2017 at 2:58 am #3497528
@hjuan99Locale: Mountain West
So, my previous setup was a Jetboil sol ti cup, with a brs-3000t and the titanium riser disk. Things were going great…getting ~5g boils on a lower setting with the brs. I cut a bunch of weight from the jetboil cup by using a soup cup lid, I cut the cozy in half, don’t bring the bottom cup, etc.
But….my jetboil sol ti starting losing fins, the brs pot supports started warping…crap. So, looking for a different setup.
My last trip I used the BRS and a evernew 600ml short/wide pot with a titanium foil lid. Weight was ridiculous…->
.11oz stuff sack
And…it certainly boils water, though…its unstable, and awful in the wind (I have to hold a windscreen against it the whole time….which…gets annoying when I’m doing multiple boils with the family). I also find it annoying that the 600ml pot has 200/400ml measuring marks…instead of 250/500….Though, why not just have a lot of marks on the pot! Oh well.
So…just to try out stuff, I bought a Soto amicus with pot combo set from massdrop for $40 shipped. (it will take a month to get here). I don’t really plan on using the combo pots (heavy)…but, I might try a combo of a Jetboil aluminum .8L cup (4.7oz) and the soto amicus (2.9oz).
However, does a amicus pot supports fit inside the bottom of the jetboil? Or would it just have to sit on top of the pot supports? (I bet that would lose quite a bit of efficiency). I do have a titanium riser disk if it does fit the bottom. And……does the amicus fit sideways if I try and store it inside the jetboil?
If someone has both could let me know, I would appreciate it.Oct 19, 2017 at 4:00 am #3497534
michael adamskiBPL Member
I don’t know about the fit of the Amicus, but if needed, you could consider cutting slots in your JetBoil pot. I don’t remember how I cut the slots. a Dremel maybe? This moves the flame closer to the pot bottom and protects it from the wind.
Here are pics of what I did. I actually like it better than the JetBoil standard pot/stove interface. It is very stable, yet easy to separate.Oct 19, 2017 at 11:19 am #3497550
@pastyj-2-2Locale: SE US
Michael – nice mod! Looks factory.
Dan – Hope you like the Amicus…it’s supposed to be a really nice stove. I have a Windmaster and love it. I’d replace it with another one if needed. I suspect it’s 3-pronged pot support could be easily modified to fit the JetBoil.Oct 19, 2017 at 1:27 pm #3497556
Robert GBPL Member
Hope you like the Amicus…it’s supposed to be a really nice stove. I have a Windmaster and love it. I’d replace it with another one if needed. I suspect it’s 3-pronged pot support could be easily modified to fit the JetBoil.
The amicus has a 4 prong support so that would make it very easy to cut the slots with a saw.Nov 20, 2017 at 1:08 am #3503011
@hjuan99Locale: Mountain West
So, got my Amicus, and certainly impressed. Excellent build quality, and …wind resistance certainly seems to be true (at least compared to my brs 3000t).
I am just overloaded with choices right now. So,6 items to choose from right now (amicus, brs3000t, evernew 600ml pot, jetboil .8L pot…and…for winter…jetboil 1.8L pot vs open country 2 quart nonstick pot).
I went ahead and did 20 test boils between the 4 combos possible for summer use stoves/pots. I learned:
- Brs:Amicus have about the same fuel efficiency in kitchen use (no wind).
- Amicus: mid vs high power settings: High is only about 4-5% less fuel efficient, but saves about 25% off boil time (2:05 min vs 1:35 for tap water).
- For a 2 cup boil….there is about a 1.5g fuel savings if I go with the jetboil vs the titanium evernew pot.
So…the heat exchanger definitely works on the jetboil, and titanium, though lighter…is just not as effective at heat transfer as aluminum. (I’m preaching to the choir on most of this data).
I am also now leaning to go closer to high power on the stoves to get faster boil times. Previously I was going towards the lower end on settings for fuel efficiency…but I’m just not saving enough fuel to make it worth it (especially since I’m usually with a family doing multiple boils).
But….I previously had my .8L jetboil sol TI cup…which…on the higher output setting of the brs, melted some of the fins. I’m hoping that now with the Jetboil aluminum cup that has better welds and heat transfer, that it won’t happen again, though its still on the back of my mind.
Minimum setup: BRS with Evernew: 3.63oz ->
Maximum weight setup (amicus/jetboil): 5.31oz jetboil cup with 2.77oz amicus: 8.08oz
Anyway, it boils down to (pun intended):
Jetboil vs Evernew: 5.31oz vs 2.4oz: Jetboil saves me 1.5g of fuel per boil (so..4.7g vs 6.3g for 68° 2cup water), plus faster, also packs nicer, but weighs almost 3oz heavier. So, I would have to boil 56x to make up for the weight. I do usually just max 6 day trips so…that wont happen on any trip.
Amicus vs BRS: 2.77oz vs .89oz. Mainly…quality goes to amicus…its just a nicer stove. Built in piezo, solid, wont bend to heat, 4 long prongs, wind resistance. BRS just has weight going for it.
Anyway…so I’ll have to contemplate all of that for a while.
Then, for snow melting…I’ll have to go with an Amicus…b/c a BRS is not going to support the weight of a 1.8L pot for extended periods..plus its just too small.
I really wanted the NON-nonstick open country 2L pot, but it looks like they don’t make them anymore. Its just $17 on amazon though for the nonstick version ->
Vs: a 1.8L Jetboil, which I can get for about $40 on sale. ->
I’m…not positive on the weight differences between the two (after I cut down the jetboil weight (find a better lid, don’t take cup, cut cozy, etc).
Anyway….last comment. On the Amicus…currently looks like this with a jetboil ->
I could cut 4 slots with a hacksaw (I don’t have a dremel), which would make the stove be closer to the pot. It would definitely help with pot stability. I would assume it would help wind efficiency and probably be slightly more fuel efficient. I am worried about the flame being even closer to the jetboil fins though if I use high power setting on the amicus…..I could just be overly worrying about it though. Thoughts?
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