DCF eVent pack liners/stuff sacks

I’m not a fan of the trash compactor bag or nylofume bag.  I typically use a small backpack, around 30-36 liters, which works well with a Sea-to-Summit eVent compression bag.  I use the 10 liter size for my quilt, down jacket, fleece hat, wool gloves, extra socks, etc.  I might be able to use the 6 liter but I didn’t purchase that one.

https://www.rei.com/product/730882/sea-to-summit-event-compression-dry-sack

I have tried stuff sacks with high compression and nylofume bags-the nylo is far superior for me to get all of the usable space from my pack. This goes in first in bottom of the bag-I put loose quilt in the nylo bag and then roll the top of the nylo loosely closed, them push the quilt down and let all the air escape-then continue to pack. No air spaces or odd shapes. Has really helped with volume management for me.

<<< what @rocco99 said!

I have never heard of a DCF/eVent stuff sack. I use the Sea-to-Summit ones all the time. Like Jason, I use a 10L one for my bedding, down jacket and sleep wear. Sorry I couldn’t be more help.

I use an OR Dirtbag dry bag for this purpose. It serves double duty as my “wash bag” too. I picked mine up for significantly cheaper than the site below. Just compress all the air out, roll down and clip.

https://www.absolute-snow.co.uk/V/Outdoor_Research_Graphic_Dry_Sack_Equipment_Dry_Bag_35L_Dirtbag-(177144)

I have been using an event compression bag from sts. Back when my pack wasn’t waterproof I considered it a must-have for my sleeping bag. Letting the air out us good, but it’s heavier and also packs my unframed pack really strange. So it stays at home now…

Actually, the small size STS bag *just* fits into my HMG or GG Murmur. After adding water bottles and fuel tanks in the lower side pouches, it wastes no space really. Even in the Murmur it fits fine. Not sure what you mean by a “strange” fit.

I use an Exped Schnozzle as a pack liner and pad pump sack.  Simply leave the “nozzel” uncapped and/or compress then roll down the top. To be honest it’s very easy to position the nozzel such that air can escape but water would have a hard time moving up against gravity to enter.  Works great for rain. Now, if we are talking about the possibility of a dunk in the lake, then I’d plug the nozzel and roll down the top tightly.

In my experience with the sea to summit eVent bags they do slowly let air back in, but its a non concern because you can easily compress and pack before it expands.

I use the schnozzle too, but as a dry bag not a pack liner. I always cap the nozzle after compressing to slow the rate of air re-entering. You can also roll up the length leading to the nozzle for similar water resistance as the top opening.

I have tried the cloud packing method @rocco99 describes with trash compactor bags and find it very frustrating to compress my 20degree bag to make room for any other gear. Everyone describes it as so simple, “fold/roll over the top of the bag, compress/remove air, continue to pack” but I find that middle step nearly impossible with my insulation fighting my every move wanting to fill my whole pack. What compression I do achieve feels uneven, as if its only compressed at the top and puffed up wasting tons of space at the bottom (I guess it wouldn’t be wasted space if I could fit the rest of my gear on top but I can’t so it feels like a waste to leave the insulation uncompressed).

Now I am trying to compress my sleeping pad, quilt, warm camp clothes, and sleep clothes into one sized small schnozzel and loosely pack my shelter around it to fill the ‘wasted space.’ Compared to stacking the shelter on top of my dry insulation, packing around the dry bag can be shorter, leaving more room in the top of the pack.

The schnozzel dry bags are slightly tapered, so while you can get a nearly rectangular, oval, log shape, it does naturally want to taper, leaving plenty of ‘wasted space’ around the bottom.

With MYOG, any stuff sack can be made to a precise volume and shape.  For example, with just enough room to stuff a bag  or quilt tightly inside.  And ditto for the clothes bag etc.

With a good waterproof stuff sack, in a coated pack with waterproof zippers, found that a plastic liner inside the stuff sack was no longer necessary, even in deluges.  But am not one to stuff puffies hard as a rock.  It is not good for them, especially the synthetic fill puffies that lose loft if overstuffed, like the PG Delta jackets and pants bought from BPL in the old days.