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could you recommend tent and pack?

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PostedAug 20, 2022 at 11:35 am

Hello

I am updating my shelter and backpack.

I wonder if you could suggest something around the following specifications:

Shelter

Less than 1.5 kg/52oz

Four season (will be primarily used in Iceland and Indonesia) and definitely built for storms, heavy wind and rain

Should be spacious for one large man, including the ability to sit up straight (i.e. internal height Ā 44ā€/110 cm+)

Minimalist design

good if it sheds some snow but not the core need

Open to all possible designs and styles.

Will be happy to support a small producer

 

Backpack

less than 800 g

frameless, 40 to 50 L

can bring onboard a plane

tested and trusted

not much more than $200

 

I will look to update all of my equipment over the next six months, but for now I have a mountain equipment helium 800 bag (-8c but 1200g) and exped downmat 7 (r value 5.9)

This equipment will see a lot of use, upwards of 100 days per year for the tent and double that for the bag.

Far from mastery but i am decently experienced with bushcraft, outdoor gear, expeditions etc.

Thank you for any insight you may have

 

S Long BPL Member
PostedAug 20, 2022 at 12:21 pm

They don’t quite meet your height requirement, but I think these tick the remaining boxes: Tarptent Scarp 1 with crossing poles or the Big Sky International Chinook 1. Regarding the pack, the first one that comes to mind that seems to fit your needs is the Superior Wilderness Designs Superior Frameless 40L pack. If you’ll be carrying a 4-season tent and associated sleeping gear and clothing, you might want to reconsider a pack with a frame. Something like the Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor is relatively inexpensive, can carry weight better than a frameless pack, and I think you can remove the stays if you absolutely need to for plane travel or something.

PostedAug 20, 2022 at 3:20 pm

Thank you S Long

The internal height is non-negotiable, as the tent is used for seated work.

The main reason for frameless is that it can be folded for a plane. I think even with all my winter gear (Excluding worn weight) its not more than 10kg. Though i have never had a frameless before, so perhaps i would be unpleasantly surprised..

I guess the stays cannot themselves be folded also?

Checking the bag is not the end of the world, it just means an extra few hundred euro every time I travel, extra delays and chance of losing it… But it may be a compromise I need to take to actually have the right bag for being on the land

 

Iago Vazquez BPL Member
PostedAug 20, 2022 at 4:07 pm

I also do not check my camping gear when air traveling. I have had my gear lost and destroyed too many times to trust baggage handling anymore. If I have to absolutely check something, it won’t be any of the big three items (pack, sleep & shelter), plus other expensive or hard to acquire items at the destination.

What is your torso size? I ask because a framed pack that has no load lifters (such as the HMG packs) can be compressed down to the frame, often not exceeding carry on limits. So if your torso size is 20″, there is a good chance that the backpack frame stays will only be 22″, thus not exceeding common carry on limitations.

S Long BPL Member
PostedAug 20, 2022 at 4:50 pm

It’ll be a little difficult to find a one person tent that tall with all-season capability under 1.5 kilos. The Tarptent Stratospire 1 might fit the bill?

PostedAug 20, 2022 at 8:03 pm

IĀ  have both the Stratospire 1 and the Scarp 1. I am 6’1″ tall and 180lbs. I can sit up comfortably in both, although I do have to lie down when dressing.Ā  I’ve had the Scarp 1 for about 10 years, and it has endured some strong weather. I trust it completely in wind driven stormy rains and light snow. I’ve used it mostly with the single hoop, but do have the cross poles for winter and they add a lot for stability. When using just the hoop, I guy it out sides and both ends. It’s held up very well.Ā Ā  Inner tent is roomy enough for me. When needed I’ve had everything in there including pack. Vestibules are just big enough for gear storage, but a bit tight for cooking in bad weather. I’ve done it, VERY carefully, The side of the inner tent can be adjusted to give more floor space in the vestibule and the couple of times I used a canister stove I had just enough room, and had the fly partially open. Its not recommended to do this but can be done.

I have not used the Stratospire enough to say how well it handles heavy weather. but other reviews say when it is properly setup it is quite stable. Compared with the Scarp 1 it has a much bigger footprint. Much larger vestibules, bit it is a bit fussier to set up, especially if its windy. The inner tent is a bit narrower than the Scarp. It sets up best on flat ground, The scarp is a bit more forgiving and can be squeezed in smaller spaces. I’m a bit of a nut case when selecting a camp site. I want it as flat as possible, but if it has a slight slope, I like to set up my tent so the head is uphill. It’s a lot simpler to setup with the Scarp. The stratospire inner tent is on a bit of an angle compared with the fly, and I’m still getting used to guessing just where the head of my tent will end up. User error – not the tent design!

As for packing the tents, I carry them in a side pocket of my pack.Ā  ULA Catalyst. They carry well there, easily accessible to set up in foul weather without opening the pack. Go to the Tarptent web site and look them over.Ā  The owner Henry Shires is very good about taking the time to answer questions, and may have other suggestions for you.Ā  Scarp 1 – 48 ouncesĀ  Stratospire 1 (using your trekking poles)Ā  36.5 ounces. If you want a palace – Scarp 2 56 ounces Stratospire 2 48.3 ounces. You could bring a ping pong table to fit in that one!

Bruce Tolley BPL Member
PostedAug 20, 2022 at 8:15 pm

My Tarptent Double Rainbow is tall enough for me @ 6′ 2 ‘ to sit up in but is only 40 inches in height according to the TT website.

Have you looked a pyramid shelters from Mountain Laurel Designs and other vendors?Ā  For example, you might be able to pick up a used silnylon MLD DuoMid that fits you cost and height requirements.

Murali C BPL Member
PostedAug 20, 2022 at 8:17 pm

I read somewhere that winds can be bad in Iceland. If that is true, then I have heard great things about MLD (Mountain Laurel Designs) Trailstar. It can handle rain/storms very well. It is a simplistic and unconventional tarp. You can use a bathtub – but, maybe in Indonesia, there may be bug pressure and I think there are several places where you can get bug bivies etc from including MLD. If MLD Trailstar is too unconventional – you can look at MLD Duomid as well.

For a frameless backpack – you cannot go wrong with MLD Prophet and MLD Exodus. The DX210d ones will cost around 245. But, you can look at reddit/ulgeartrade for deals on used ones. You can definitely put out a WTB ad and should be able to get one for 200 or slightly more. I have taken MLD Prophet/ MLD burn on planes as carry on. I use a Large size which has a torso size of 21.5 inches.

HMG 3400 Medium has a 19.5 inch frame stay and I have taken it on flights as carry on with no problems.

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