- Aug 23, 2017 at 12:48 am #3486597
Asking because I’ve used a variety of cashmere jumpers as midlayers over the years and while I know they are warm I have never seen the warmth quantified
A question for Richard Nisley I think
I just bought a new crewneck jumper form Uniqlo and subjectively it is warmer than a Patagonia Cap 4 Expedition top and on sale they are cheaperAug 23, 2017 at 11:35 pm #3486761
Katherine .BPL Member
How do they hold up? I was under the impression cashmere was less durable than merino. But I’ve never worn cashmere in the field.
(main problem with it for me is the moths always find the pricey stuff first)Aug 24, 2017 at 1:10 am #3486773
I had one V-neck sweater last almost 10 years of intermittent use, YoYo skiing tho so no shoulder pressure, I lost it to an Ex who just happened to hot wash and tumble dry it
I have a pirate/forgery RL Polo which was OK for a year until it started to fall apart
Good point on the moths; I’ll order some cedar balls and make a storage sleeve.
If it lasts one Arctic trip tho it will be worth it tho I thinkSep 21, 2017 at 5:26 pm #3492408
Just an empirical observation but it was cool and wet here for a couple of weeks and I rang the changes on the cashmere and my Patagucci Cap4 crew.
I would put the cheap cashmere about 50% warmer than the Cap4; at 6C the combination of the Cap4 and the cashmere was almost unbearably warm static when the breeze wasn’t blowing.
Normally I reserve the Cap4 as my downhill skiing underlayer due to the stop start nature of yo-yo skiingSep 23, 2017 at 12:24 am #3492698
Justin WBPL Member
Awhile back, I bought my spouse a thinnish, cable knit sweater at Uniqlo that has some cashmere in it.
The specific blend is 37% polyester, 19% acrylic, 17% nylon, 17% sheeps wool, and 10% cashmere.
Being a bit of a fabric/materials geek, and except for it being low cut at the neck line, it’s fairly gender neutral looking, so I’ve worn it to see how it would do as far as stink and warmth. It apparently has enough combined nylon, sheeps wool, and cashmere, to help reduce odor significantly below a 100% non treated polyester garment.
It’s also fairly warm for the weight, but I would have no idea how to quantify that with any accuracy. All in all, I would say it would make an excellent mid layer for more extreme cold (especially if it had a higher neck!) and has enough synthetic fiber ratio, to make it much more durable over a full cashmere or sheep’s wool piece and to speed up drying time a bit.
But where Cap 4/Thermal weight grid fleece shines, is that it’s a bit like wearning fishnet. Fish net and Cap 4 fabrics, I’ve found, are the most comfortable base layers when its either very cold and very dry, or cool and sustained wet. Keeping that primary air space next to the skin is key. Wet fabric, whatever it is, loses a lot of insulation and becomes much more conductive because the air space in the fibers is taken up by water, and water itself is quite conductive.
Fishnet and Cap 4 keep a constant layer of air directly next to your skin, and it’s definitely more comfortable in extreme conditions.
If I was ever to do a Tough Mudder type competition (especially if in winter), I would wear a PP fishnet baselayer, with an inverted Cap 4 baselayer over that, and a thin, UL windjacket over that.
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