- Jun 12, 2019 at 9:45 pm #3597463
Sacrificial first uneditable postJun 12, 2019 at 9:47 pm #3597466
We have our dog vaccinated for Rattlesnake venom but this is the first time I’ve read of an account where it was a factor.
Do your own due diligence, talk to your vet, yadda, yadda.
Owner’s story copy and pasted from the Vet’s office that treated the pup.
“SPOILER ALERT: Jett, my cool sweet crazy flat coated Border Collie got bit by a rattle snake this morning. He is currently recuperating at Horse Heaven Hills Pet Urgent Care and is expected to fully recover. As most of you know, Rose and I have hiked Badger weekly, for 7 years now. This has never happened. We are very fortunate in that we are looking at a good ending of this story. Here is what I want to share with you:
THE STORY: Jett got bit while off leash, in the brush, not on the trail. We didn’t actually witness it. He jumped back on the trail in a ‘spaz’, with his tail between his legs. At the same time Rose and I heard distinct hissing. We both suspected right then that there had been a snake encounter. Jett is fast, so we were hoping that he had escaped a bite: he didn’t yelp, and he didn’t immediately act like he was in pain, he just acted intimidated. Thankfully, we were 10 minutes from the parking lot. We recently learned about the benefits of giving dogs Benadryl following a snakebite. Rose had found the article (just a couple of months ago!!), and had Benadryl and peanut butter in the car. The dose is 1 mg per pound of body weight. Jet weighs 40 pounds, so we gave him 50 mg right away. We noticed his lip was now swelling. We then knew for sure he was bit and that we needed to get him to the vet for anti-venom. I called my own vet, and they referred me to the Horse Heaven Hills Pet Urgent Care clinic. Very few carry the actual anti-venom (different then the vaccine)! As soon as I got to the clinic, they took him in treatment, had me sign a consent form, and he is there for the rest of the day until I pick him up tonight.
THINGS I LEARNED:
-We were lucky: if a rattlesnake bite ever “had” to happen to one of our dogs, the circumstances today were “ideal”….
-We were 10 mins from the parking lot…
-Our dogs have all had rattle snake vaccine and the yearly boosters which DELAYS the effect of the venom, it buys more time…and
-We had Benadryl on hand which delayed the effect of the venom with it’s anti-histamine and sedative effect.
-When all is said and done the bill today will be around $1400. The anti-venom is crazy expensive, and all the monitoring around it adds up.
-I will not ever judge you for spending that amount of $$ on a dog. I did it today, and did not hesitate a moment.
-The snake in this picture is a bull snake, not a rattle. I know many of you will tell me the snakes are the reasons you will never go up the mountain. We will go back, but yes, with added caution. There are risks in everything you do in life, even driving to the grocery store.
-I am not taking this lightly, it was scary, I definitely cried. I am a RN and deal with emergencies on a regular basis. But when I called the Horse Heaven clinic I could not speak for 10 long seconds and all I could think was “please don’t hang up…”. I just couldn’t get words out. Then tears came and words flowed out and with trembling voice I said “my dog was bit by a rattle snake…”…. They replied: “just get here…” So I did.
-Rose, thank you, you are the best (dog and human) friend I could ever have. Jett and I owe you ♥️
-Thank you so much for reading all this. It helps to share the story ♥️🐾”
Jun 12, 2019 at 9:58 pm #3597469
- This reply was modified 2 weeks ago by Ian. Reason: bold/underline added
Dena KelleyBPL Member
@eagleriverdeeLocale: Eagle River, Alaska
That one even made me cry a little. I’m glad your dog is going to be ok!Jun 12, 2019 at 10:33 pm #3597475
I was a little choked up at the end as well.
Jett isn’t my dog though. One of our local vets who treated him posted this story and I thought it was worth passing on.
Our 15 month old Golden Retriever goes in for his annual booster shots next week. I’m going to pick my vets brain on this plus other hiking/backpacking related K9 first aid stuff to make sure I have my Doggo first aid kit dialed in.Jun 12, 2019 at 11:13 pm #3597487
I’m not crying. No, not at all.Jun 12, 2019 at 11:38 pm #3597492
It’s a particular problem I have absolutely no worries about (there is one species of garter snake that lives 1200 miles away), but I’ve done a lot to train our dog to come back to me when she encounters a bear, moose, porcupine or another hiking party. I don’t want to get to sanctimonious about it because she learns new commands wicked fast, but I’m glad I spent (that short) time to develop a standing rule with her.
I always travel with Benadryl (plus Ibuprofen, Acetaminophen, and Imodium) but I didn’t know Benadryl was indicated for rattlesnake bites in dogs. And in humans?Jun 13, 2019 at 1:17 am #3597528
Great story…..but…what does this have to do with “rattlesnake vaccine”?
A quick search brought this up, among others….Jun 13, 2019 at 2:01 am #3597543
Because it apparently helped this dog in this case
”Our dogs have all had rattle snake vaccine and the yearly boosters which DELAYS the effect of the venom, it buys more time…and”Jun 13, 2019 at 2:29 am #3597546
Local article on this eventJun 13, 2019 at 2:47 am #3597554
“I always travel with Benadryl (plus Ibuprofen, Acetaminophen, and Imodium) but I didn’t know Benadryl was indicated for rattlesnake bites in dogs. And in humans?”
You and me both David. I also wondered the same for use on humans.
I didn’t even know that a rattlesnake vaccine existed a year ago and now my dog has been vaccinated. When I woke up this morning, I didn’t know Benadryl could help my dog if he was bitten by a rattlesnake and now I do. Suffice to say that I’m massively unqualified to speculate too much on this and will be conferring with my vet.
I wrote it in the OP but it bears repeating, I’m not suggesting that anyone should or shouldn’t vaccinate their pup against Rattlesnake bites. Talk to your vet and do your own due diligence.
For me, I use these stories as an opportunity to (hopefully) ask trained professionals who I trust the right questions.
I’m for one not going to expose my dogs to rattlesnake bites to see whether or not the vaccine works. Like human medicine, research evolves. What is gospel this year may be debunked as (ahem) snakeoil medicine the next.
Someone in David’s position doesn’t need to lose any sleep over this. We have a thriving rattlesnake population where I live and we see them on a regular basis, so it’s worth considering or at least talking to your vet about.
Vaya con puppy.
Jun 13, 2019 at 3:10 am #3597569
- This reply was modified 2 weeks ago by Ian.
I posted a link to a news article a couple responses up. There’s a video in that article where they interview a vet from Idaho who doesn’t appear to be sold on the vaccine.
My position is still, dunno. This is all pretty far outside my wheelhouse.
To play devil’s advocate, the lady cited in my OP really doesn’t know if the vaccine did or didn’t help as she (hopefully) hasn’t had to do this twice with the same pup before and after a vaccination.Jun 13, 2019 at 4:54 pm #3597663
And even if your dog got bit twice, you might be left uncertain how much venom each bite conveyed. From the article, “Mowry reacted quickly when she noticed Jett’s cheek was swelling.”, so apparently some venom was injected.
We brought a local park worker into a backpacking first aid class who’d been bitten. He said his momentary thought as he was bitten was, “That was stupid of me.” (he’d reached into the rattlesnake’s cage) but that quickly supplanted by intense pain at the bite site and his take-home message was that if it was a rattlesnake AND it injected venom, you WILL know it.
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