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Can I use KAM snaps w/o a press or pliers? (traditional hammer die method)


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    Kodiak Firesmith
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    @kodiak

    I don’t see why we need the fiddly-ness of pliers or a press to use KAM snaps but I’ve never seen them pressed in person – I’ve just looked at them afterward.  I’m trying to retrofit an MLD core with side pockets and I figure KAM snaps would be a great way to hold the pocket backing in place (but not to support weight or anything) – but there’s no way that I could fit the excess material of the MLD core into the gap space of the pliers.

    Thanks!

    #3439292
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    Yes, there are indeed ways to mess up a snap assembly.  Depending on where you live and all, I have the equipment to assemble the Fashion 20 snap.  Send me a PM and we can discuss if you wish.

    #3439293
    Todd Stough
    BPL Member

    @brewguy

    The pliers smash the plastic pin like it does on a rivet.  I suppose it would work with a hammer type press.

    #3439306
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    I have put in a lot of these snaps over the years. My experience has been that you MUST keep the alignment when ‘making’ the rivet. The proper tool works fine, and doing it in a good (ie not sloppy) drill press with the right rivetting tools also works fine.

    But trying to do it in a vice or with pliers fails every time. Very reliably.

    Cheers

    #3439328
    Kodiak Firesmith
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    @kodiak

    Thanks all for the replies!  It’s reminded me why I still love this place in spite of all the wonkiness with the interface.

    Ask about some unpopular craft item and get 3 knowledgeable replies in an hour!  I love you guys!

    #3439336
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    some unpopular craft item
    I would not describe those plastic snaps, which come in many brands, as being an UNpopular item! Far from it.

    However, I would not try to use them on a single layer of silnylon. A little reinforcing for the area please.

    Cheers

    #3439346
    Kodiak Firesmith
    Spectator

    @kodiak

    Unpopular as in there is not much deeper-than-surface blogging going on about them.  And certainly nobody talking about abusing them in the way I’d envisioned.  I’m going to bag the idea and proceed with just using the various attachment points of the MLD core.  It’ll be a little floppy but it won’t affect the core’s resale value and it’ll probably get resold once I get my Borah Gear daypack.

     

    Thanks a bunch Roger!

    #3440346
    Dave @ Oware
    BPL Member

    @bivysack-com

    Locale: East Washington

    For uses like that I attach the snaps to a piece of grosgrain and then sew the ribbon to the item.

    #3440364
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Interestingly, you can buy tape or ribbon with snaps set into it at close intervals. I have some, and it does work.

    Cheers

    #3441054
    Kodiak Firesmith
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    @kodiak

    Thanks to all who have posted in this thread.  I think I’m going to go ahead and invest in a KAM snap kit soon and rather than augment my MLD core, embark on making something similar from scratch that is designed to fit my needs.

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