Big stakes?

https://bigskyinternational.com/collections/tube-steaks

These are robust. When driven in fully, they offer substantial holding power. If you need more than this, stack heavy rocks on top.

How about 8″ Eastons? Seem to work in about anything and can put weight on top if necessary.

I always pack the 9″ Coghlans aluminum Y stakes on the Florida Trail where the ground is basically nothing but sand. They are very cheap and can be found at most Walmart stores, among other places. Not high-grade aircraft aluminum like with MSR or Sonic but as long as you’re not pounding them into hard ground it’s not an issue. The Coghlans stakes have great purchase (holding) power and weigh 0.8 oz each. Not a dense aluminum which means you get more surface area per weight than with most other stakes. However, they’re not as bomber and can break if you step on them the wrong way or abuse them.  https://www.coghlans.com/ultralight-tent-stakes-9-7-bulk-1001

Maybe try using 2 stakes and an extra piece of guy line. Set them at opposing 45* angles to redirect the force from the tent. I just use needle stakes.
The Cyclones look like they’d be easier to get back out. I’d try them.

A Vargas poop shovel will double as a extra wide tent stake.

I see very few rocks in your picture, so that may be out of the question.

https://bigskyinternational.com/collections/tube-steaks

These are robust. When driven in fully, they offer substantial holding power. If you need more than this, stack heavy rocks on top.

Good advice. I switched to Tube Steaks for all my tents 3 years ago, they’re just so much better than anything else out there, and there’s nothing like a big ol’ rock to really firm things up!

Brad,

How do the Big Sky Tube steaks offer more holding power than the RL Carbons I used now? They are both round, 8mm diameter, and similar length, aren’t they?

Russ, which Eastons do you mean? A quick search only showed me round stakes, which, just like the Bigsky ones, I can’t see would offer more holding power than the 9” RL I used?

Monte, The Cochlans seem like a good option. Before I got such a big shelter, I would for sure have bought those, as there be a specialty item. Now with the bigger shelter, that needs big stakes more often, I would be willing to pay more for stronger ones.
But, of course, it’s not guaranteed that the more expensive ones actually are stronger,

Edit, perhaps the issue is that people do not know the RL Carbon stakes:

carbon tubes, alloy tip and head

9”/23cm long, 8mm diameter

https://rutalocura.com/?page_id=6251

The Big Agnes Dirt Dagger 10 inch aluminum I beam stakes will most definitely fit your needs and I would have recommended them earlier but they’re heavy at 1.65 oz each. Made with high grade aircraft aluminum so very strong. https://www.publiclands.com/p/big-agnes-dirt-dagger-ultralight-10-intent-stakes-21tumubggnsdrtdggcat/21tumubggnsdrtdggcat?sku=22364228&camp=CSE:PBL_92700077978424105_PLA_pla-4582833232798006:aud-805997610&gclsrc=3p.ds&gclsrc=3p.ds&gclid=8b729e3b0787189430f2fb05d797aa14&msclkid=8b729e3b0787189430f2fb05d797aa14

I see you’re located in Duluth Tjaard.  I was a farrier for many years and that’s where the 2 big US horseshoe manufacturers are located (Diamond and St Croix). Yep, you certainly know what cold is all about.

How about a sand and snow stake like the MSR Blizzard stake?

John, I thought about that. I was wondering about the weight. The RL 9” were holding, but this was with calm weather in sheltered sites, and they moved a bit sometimes, or  stacked rocks on them.

So, I figured I need a bit more support, but didn’t think I needed to go to full on sand stakes.

I have a Large Mid (Oware 9*9)

For soft ground (peat, sand, etc) the corners get Blizzard Stakes.   Normally I’d use Gold Eastons.

Taking Blizzards instead of 4 Eastons adds 72g (c2.5oz) and  taking them as well as Eastons adds 144g (c5oz).  The equivalent of a slurp or 2 of water or one dry meal.   Not a big weight penalty if it stops your tent falling down!

I don’t find Big Sky Steaks have any better holding power that the Easton Golds (I have both types) or see why they’d be better holding than similarly dimensioned carbon stakes. Holding power is a function of surface area. It is no different on any of these stakes.  Obviously there are other differences between them that might influence choice. But not holding ability.