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Brad, my testing is consistant at 70 degree starting temps. Stovebench testing has to have set parameters.
Brad, my testing is consistant at 70 degree starting temps. Stovebench testing has to have set parameters.
Dan, yes, I’ve been clear on that from the beginning.
I like that modification Chris. I believe you mentioned that previously.
yeah, 2 g of fuel used isn’t useful without knowing temperature rise of the water.
Usually, when I heat water, it starts pretty cold. Maybe 40 F or something. If I had a target end temp it would be 195 F or so. And if I’m comparing two conditions, like with and without windscreen, I’ll normalize with the actual temperature difference. If my target was a 155 F temperature rise, but I only did 150 F on a particular test, I’ll multiply the measured fuel used by 155 / 150 and use that for comparison.
A simple way of looking at it is that you need ~5 grams of fuel to raise 2 cups of water from 70F to 212F so that is about 5 grams to raise the temperature by ~150 F or 30 F per gram of fuel. So for every 30F lower than 70 F (water at 40 F) you need to use 1 gram more fuel.
Stove Efficiency is simply the Energy required to boil water/Energy available. Once you know the Efficiency, you can calculate fuel consumption based upon water volume, water temperature etc.
Energy required to boil water Mw*cp*ΔT
Mw=Mass (g)
Cp= Specific Heat Capacity (4.186 J/gC)
ΔT =difference in temperature (C)
Energy Available (Isobutane) Specific Energy*Mass
Energy Density (isobutane) – (45208.8 J/g)
Mg = Mass of gas (g)
Efficiency = (Mw*cp*ΔT)/(Specific Energy*Mg)
A stove boiling 2 cups (473 ml) of 70 F water to 209 F using 4.9 grams of fuel has an efficiency of 70%.
Now what happens if you are boiling 500ml of 45 F water at 10,000 feet, how much fuel is required?
The boiling point of water at 10,000 feet is 194 F (or 90 C) with a starting point of 45 F (7.2 C)
0.74=(500g*(4.186 J/gC)*(90C-7.2C))/(( 45208.8 J/g)*(Mg))
0.74=(473*4.186*82.8)/(45.2088*Mg)
Solving for Mg = 5.5 g of fuel
My 2 cents
I was told there would be no math…
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