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Oct 27, 2016 at 8:49 am #3433081
Hi all,
I’ve put together a food planning app (http://www.bearcan.io) focused on reaching caloric/protein targets while minimizing weight. It’s mostly based off my planning for the JMT last summer, and I thought it might be something that others could benefit from.If you’re interested in taking a look, I’d love to hear any feedback. Thanks, and hope it’s useful!
All the best,
AlexNov 14, 2016 at 12:24 am #3435480Its down, is that permanent?
Nov 14, 2016 at 10:06 am #3435528It should be back up now! Sorry, was fixing some bugs.
Nov 15, 2016 at 10:50 am #3435707Which brings to mind this post from our blog:
Packing your bear can: It’s not a science, but more like an art.
<div>Step One: First you have to get all of your food together: the freeze-dried dinners, the soup packets, the instant oatmeal and cocoa, the energy bars and the gorp, the dried fruit and salami, bread or crackers. It all has to go into that little plastic barrel.</div>
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<div>Step Two: Take everything out of its pre-packaged wrapper. Pour the freeze-dried dinners into zip-lock bags, so they take up less room. Open the dried fruit packages, squeeze all the air our of them, then re-seal them with their finger seal. Remove all extraneous paper wrappings, cardboard, etc. If you are taking bread, squeeze it down into a much smaller dimension, and then put it in the freezer over night. It will take up less room, and stay fresher that way.</div>
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<div>Step Three: take the first night’s dinner and set it aside. It doesn’t have to go in the can, nor does the first day’s lunch or snack. Whew! That makes it a little easier.</div>
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<div>Step Four: imagine all of this fitting into that little plastic can. And imagine how you are going to use this stuff. Start by putting a couple of days’ breakfasts and dinner down into the bottom of the can. You won’t need these for the first few days, and it’s better to get them out of the way.</div>
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<div>Step Five: Now stack all those energy bars around the side of the can. This is the most efficient use of space for these bars, and this way they are more or less easy to grab. As you stack them in there, use more breakfasts or dinners to hold them in place.</div>
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<div>Step Six: now it’s time for the stuff in the middle. Take your salami, cheese, and anything else you are going to eat for lunch and pack it in the middle of the can. You’ll need to access this stuff every day, so there is no point putting it in the bottom.</div>
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<div>Step Seven: Toss in the last breakfast–that’s what you’ll need first thing in the morning on the second day, and it makes sense to put this on top. Hooray! It all fits perfectly!</div>
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<div>Step Eight: Inform your wife that the bear canister is now packed for the trail. She asks if you want to put the toiletries in there as well.</div>
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<div>Step Nine: Take the sunscreen, moisturizer, insect repellent, toothpaste, and face cream from your wife. Go back to the bear can and start shoving it in. With a little bit of luck and some brute force, you’ll be able to wedge this stuff in between the salami and the cheese, and maybe shove one down the side with the energy bars. That last tube of face cream is just going to get mashed on top…and let’s hope it doesn’t jam the lid when you try to unscrew everything.</div>
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<div>Step Ten: Inform your wife that the bear canister is now packed for the trail. She asks if you remembered the bread.</div>
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<div>Step Eleven: Take the bread out of the freezer. Unpack the entire can and start again, shoving things together even harder. Forget trying to keep the noodles in once piece. Sacrifice the crispy crackers and turn them into powder to gain more space. Mash the bread into a solid ball, then shove the final toiletries on top and jam the lid in place. Slowly screw the lid down, listening for structural failure in the bear can.</div>
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<div>Step Twelve: Inform your wife that the bear canister is now packed for the trail. She asks if you remembered to put the soap in.</div>
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<div>Step Thirteen: Put the soap in a side pocket of your pack, along with the last two energy bars, a tube of neosporin, and the raisins your wife just bought at the store.</div>
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<div>Step Fourteen: Inform the ranger at the trailhead that all your food and odorized items are in the bear can.</div>
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<div>Step Fifteen: Start hiking. Hope for the best. Inform your wife that next time, we’ll have take less stuff.</div>Nov 15, 2016 at 11:31 am #3435714Very interesting application, however I’d like to suggest you modify the application to estimate the volume of the food. I found this to be a critical limitation when stuffing ten days worth of food into a BV500. I created a spreadsheet with all of our favorite foods which calculated the volume in addition to calories and protein for each day. This required a fair amount of research and measurement. My wife made fun of my son and I one day when she walked in on us dimensioning our favorite brand of salami…
Nov 15, 2016 at 11:15 pm #3435808Ha, did you use water displacement to get the salami volume?
Definitely agree that volume would be great—I ran into similar issues with my JMT packing! It’s a hard problem though, so I’m trying to start a bit simple, and possibly work up to that.
Thanks for taking a look—let me know if you have suggestions or questions!
Nov 16, 2016 at 6:24 am #3435824We thought about water displacement but we ended up just dimensioning the straight part with calipers and then estimating a sphere for both ends. My son really enjoys math so he was really into this spreadsheet. He was 12 when we hiked the JMT.
We were both excited when we realized the spreadsheet predicted our capacity accurately. High fives all around.
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