- Jun 9, 2020 at 7:47 am #3651876
I’m having trouble finding the official government regulations for the High Sierra Trail. Are bear canisters required? Are alcohol stoves banned? Are there other rules besides no fires above 10,000ft?Jun 9, 2020 at 7:51 am #3651877
Yes. No. LNT rules including camping/washing near water and trails apply, use of existing campfire rings. I think that’s it.Jun 9, 2020 at 8:56 am #3651885
Thank you. Now I have a better sense of how small my food has to be.Jun 9, 2020 at 7:47 pm #3651991
Yep it’s time to play TetrisJun 9, 2020 at 8:43 pm #3651996Russ WBPL Member
@gatome83Locale: Southeastern US
Don’t forget that waste at SEKI includes used toilet paper. You may want to read up on toilet paper alternatives!Jun 12, 2020 at 4:17 pm #3652593
I’m a no-TP person. I do think we have to bring a wag bag for one of the days. Hopefully by then I’ll be so starved that I won’t be pooing anymore.Jun 12, 2020 at 5:14 pm #3652601
Yep it’s time to play Tetris
Yep. Lots of powders.Jun 17, 2020 at 7:27 pm #3653649Adrian GriffinBPL Member
Many national forests now prohibit fires or stoves lacking a shutoff valve, which would nix alcohol stoves. See thread under Plumas NF joins stoves w/shutoff, no wood fires. Not just Plumas, at least as far south as Stanislaus.Jun 17, 2020 at 8:24 pm #3653652Jeffs ElevenBPL Member
Which direction you going, Diane? I’ve been on a portion of the hst headed East to West. It was some of the most amazing stuff I’ve seen. I felt bad for the people headed East, but we only did from kern canyon to Whatever the trail to Elizabeth pass is called.
Precipice to Hamilton lake. Epic! headed west though. Lord of the rings stuffJun 17, 2020 at 10:29 pm #3653670
Adrian, SEKI changed their regulations a year or two ago. Alcohol and Esbit are allowed in the wilderness even during fire restrictions. See the table on this link:Jun 18, 2020 at 8:07 am #3653712Adrian GriffinBPL Member
I guess the Park is less restrictive than National Forests in this case.Jun 30, 2020 at 3:05 pm #3655523
I’m going West to East.
I have some more questions about this.
Question 1: Transportation to the trail
The plan right now is to get a ride with one of the other participants to the Eastern side to pick up a third participant. Then drive to the Western side. The person who is driving is very annoying. I’m thinking about just meeting him on the Western side. I can arrange my own ride home at the end. This would involve taking Amtrak train/bus to Visalia and taking an Uber to the Sequoias wherever the trailhead is. In this COVID nightmare, is Uber from Visalia or Amtrak even feasible?
Question 2: Permits
The plan was to join a person I have never met who got a permit for 6 people. All of them dropped out. He is friends with my friends so I got an invite to join the permit. Now he does not want to go the whole way. He only wants to go to Moraine Lake and back. I want to go all the way and so do my two friends (my one friend and the annoying person). The person with the permit was not convinced that we could go all the way on his permit if he wasn’t there with us. Do you think it is true that we can’t do the whole trail if the person who’s name is on the permit turns around halfway?
I’ve applied for my own permit just in case. If I can’t get one that exits via Whitney Portal I will be happy to accept one that exits Horseshoe Meadow and add an extra day. Does anyone have any sense on how close to the wire I have to wait for my own permit to arrive?Jun 30, 2020 at 4:31 pm #3655543jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
“The plan right now is to get a ride with one of the other participants to the Eastern side to pick up a third participant. Then drive to the Western side. ”
That’s…a bit much. any way the friend on the Eastern side can meet you guys on the Western side?
OR: change plans and do a circle from the east back to the east. Or west to west–you could get out and let the annoying person pick up the friend while you do an overnight, or just camp. There’s tons of great routes. And it would solve beaucoup problems.
this is just how I would proceed; I don’t mean to be directive! I understand that you have good reasons for going with the original route.Jul 1, 2020 at 9:32 am #3655651
It’s suddenly starting to look like the whole thing is falling apart. Perhaps I will end up just going to the Eastern side either to meet my friend, or alone, and possibly entering at some non-quota trailhead and just wander around in the vicinity of my permit that has me starting at High Sierra trail. If it falls apart enough, I could add some days and start earlier.
I guess I should start researching public transportation to the Eastern Sierra.Jul 2, 2020 at 5:12 am #3655840Erica RBPL Member
If you start on the east side (Inyo NF) you don’t need a bear canister, you can use a (white or new) Ursack. That is, until you get to a NP or the Sierra NF.
If you start on the West side (Sierra NF or NP) you need a bear canister.Jul 2, 2020 at 8:50 am #3655856
“If you start on the east side (Inyo NF) you don’t need a bear canister”
Is that correct? I know you need one at Kearsarge or Cottonwood. The Sierra Wild map shows the trail up to Whitney skirting the edge of bear can zone.
Speculation at this point but I wouldn’t be surprised if the east side closes given this:Jul 2, 2020 at 9:28 am #3655867PedestrianBPL Member
“If you start on the east side (Inyo NF) you don’t need a bear canister, you can use a (white or new) Ursack.”
Could you please post your source for this? Thanks!Jul 2, 2020 at 11:53 am #3655892Erica RBPL Member
Check out the Sierra NF website and the Inyo NF website,
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