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ASTM for Determining R-Value of Camping Mattresses

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Casey Bowden BPL Member
PostedOct 18, 2018 at 3:58 pm

It’s not an official ASTM yet, but their is a committee working on it.

ASTM WK59903
New Test Method for Measuring Thermal Resistance of Camping Mattresses Using Guarded Hotplate Apparatus

1. Scope

The test method covers the measurement of the thermal resistance of camping mattress in conditions of steady-state heat transfer, using a two-plate guarded hotplate apparatus under confined clamping force, which is imposed upon and the inflating pressure from within the specimen mattresses.

See ASTM.org for more information.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedOct 18, 2018 at 9:03 pm

The guarded hot plate method is certainly the best. The ratiometric method is also good. I have built a couple of them over the years. I note that they do mention the pressure as well. Good stuff.

Cheers

Dave Heiss BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2018 at 12:18 am

That ASTM test device features an inverted guarded hotplate above and a cold plate below (with the sleeping pad placed in-between) to simulate the conditions a camping mattress experiences in use – warm body on top, cold ground below. And yes, a compression force can be applied (via weight bars).

The device looks like this, and it’s already being used by several brands you’d probably recognize:

Jenny A BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2018 at 1:50 am

Yes, I’ve heard this is in the works.  Even though R-value testing for pads isn’t perfect, it at least provides some kind of basis for comparison.  I would love to try some of Nemo’s products, but their temperature rating system (and Big Agnes’) just doesn’t inspire confidence.  The adoption of the EN system for sleeping bag testing did a lot to level the playing field for those products.

Matt Dirksen BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2018 at 7:02 pm

“Even though R-value testing for pads isn’t perfect, it at least provides some kind of basis for comparison.”

To provide any reasonable basis for comparison, they should be required to measure the R value of air mattresses when  the thickness is reduced by 50 percent, and be tested at 0 Celsius. That way they can roughly approximate what happens when someone sleeps on their side, and what happens to R value in freezing weather.

(an X-Lite’s R value claim is 3.2, while an RidgeRest SOLite’s is R 2.8, yet everyone knows the SOLite is “warmer” under normal use, since it’s a ccf pad.)

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