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Anyone here ever use an ultrasonic fabric welder?


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    YoPrawn
    Spectator

    @johan-river

    Locale: Cascadia

    Ultrasonic welders are used for all sorts of stuff from plastic packaging to face masks and so on. They can basically weld many materials together with intense vibration.

    Asking because I royally hate sewing machines, and most of my projects could go pretty fast and efficient if I used a sonic welder. I think. ;)

    I don’t find many people using these for MYOG, but since folks around here are often more savvy with tech, someone might have experience. If you have used one, what’s your experience? Do they weld permanently enough or do the welds come loose without extra care or steps? Stuff like that.

    They run from around $400 and up, with $600 being the cheapest one you can get that has timing controls. Cheaper than $600 only allows a set timer and has to be done multiple times for extra welding.

    #3768504
    Gabriel H
    BPL Member

    @interpunctus

    Some time ago, I was also wondering whether ultrasonic welding would work for light fabric. I asked SONOTRONIC about it and they tested their ultrasonic welding of some fabric samples I sent them. All the fabrics were under 1 oz. Result was basically that while properly welded together, the welding had very significantly weakened the fabric, so that it would easily tear along the weld.

    Maybe ultrasound spot welding could replace tape or pins to facilitate the sewing.

    There is obviously a whole industry around ultrasonic welding, but, unsurprisingly they tend to have relatively expensive equipment… I do wonder whether any manufacturer has ever tried them out. Though personally, so far,  I have never seen any equipment that seemed to have been welded.

    #3768539
    Ben H.
    BPL Member

    @bzhayes

    Locale: No. Alabama

    Is this the way they make inflatable pads?

    #3768563
    Jacob
    BPL Member

    @jakeyjohn1

    Maybe.

    https://solutions.covestro.com/en/highlights/articles/theme/processing-technology/welding-films

    Apparently there are multiple ways of creating and applying heat to fabric materials. So instead of a metal welding torch or soldering iron people invented other things with pointy ends that get hot in different ways. The fabrics are held together with tapes/pins and heated. Im under the impression many solutions use pressure, ie a heat press/ industrial hair straightener type tool but I’ve never seen/done it.

    Video of diy welding of a packraft https://youtu.be/mQS_veP1V0A

    #3768580
    YoPrawn
    Spectator

    @johan-river

    Locale: Cascadia

    Thanks for replies. Seems like I would be venturing into slightly untested waters, which could get costly experimenting with different systems and materials. Let alone the effects of the sonic welder on the material strength like mentioned.

    #3768908
    SIMULACRA
    BPL Member

    @simulacra

    Locale: Puget Sound

    Interestingly enough I just ran into this at a Columbia store. First thought was, “Why hasn’t this been done with down before!?”  Reducing heat loss from fabric sew through, down shift and the need for traditional baffles. Is it hype? Are there pitfalls to this process? Should this be the wave of future garment design?

     

     

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