All around jacket for the city in the 60-70F

What’s your desire for a DWR-less fabric? Is it for environmental reasons or do you really find yourself needing to reapply DWR often after just standing around in amusement parks etc?   I would think that would be a pretty easy life for most shells. Maybe look for something higher quality that what you’ve been using in the past and it’ll hold up much better. I don’t think you need something w/out DWR.

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Patagonia Houdini?

The fabric has little to do with temperatures. Ventilation features are what you want to look for in a rain jacket. Pit zips, venting pockets and Velcro tabs or snaps on the front zipper will allow airflow.

In that temperature range, a windshirt would work for me for other than rain. For urban use, a windshirt and umbrella would be fine and a light colored or silver umbrella would provide sun protection too

I travel with a light stretchy softshell like the OR Ferrosi or Eddie Bauer Sandstone. They are heavier than a windshirt but tougher and breathe well. Hoodie versions are.available too.

Where I live year round average daytime temperature is 70F. I wear a patagonia down sweater every single day. I wear it on my motorcycle on the way to and from work. I wear it in my frozen office. I wear it if I go outside in the evening or when I go out for coffee on the weekends and sit on the patio. If it’s colder or raining, I add a rain coat, especially on my motorcycle.

If it’s not cold enough to wear my jacket, I wear a large men’s dress shirt as a light jacket.

For around town, I’d just get an inexpensive REI rain jacket.   They have a couple for $50.

Marmot PreCip jacket is usually on sale somewhere, if not $99 is not a bad deal for the color choices,  pit-zips and a good fitting hood. Seen these in use from Seattle down to Orlando.

Thanks,

i ended up up getting a cheap one from the blue store Swiss tech brand for like $20.

once this one fail in a few years I look into the Precip it seem it have good reviews.