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    Kyler B
    BPL Member

    @live4backcountry09

    Locale: Kootenays

    Looking for folks who have experience using a Vargo BOT.

    I am considering purchasing one.

    My use of it would be:

    As a cooking pot heated by isobutane, white gas and esbit.

    As a water bottle for normal drinking.

    As a hot water bottle that can hold boiling hot water and be put inside a sleeping bag overnight. I would use a sock to cover it.

    my concerns are:

    the durability of the seal

    the durability of the threads

    how the BOT would handle white gas

    And last but not least the price.

    Thanks I’m advance for your help.

    #3760542
    Jan Rezac
    BPL Member

    @zkoumal

    Locale: Prague, CZ

    I have the bot but I’m using it mostly just as a pot, with a light flat lid.

    It works with any stove including gas, no problem here.

    As a water bottle, I’d use it only as a backup extra capacity. And always in an external pocket. A normal bottle is easier to handle. And, most importantly, a simple plastic bottle of the same capacity can be lighter than the lid of the bot.

    I won’t trust it enough to put it into a sleeping bag. The threads require a delicate balance between tightening enough and overtightening when they pop open.

    I got mine for a good price long time ago, but i won’t buy it again even at such a discount. A lighter pot of the same capacity and a dedicated water bottle are much cheaper, lighter, and better working solution.

    #3760545
    Ryan Jordan
    Admin

    @ryan

    Locale: Central Rockies

    As a hot water bottle or hot water “storage” device (e.g., make a pot of coffee and carry it with you on the trail) – I’m not afraid of it leaking (it has a robust silicone seal that should last a very long time).

    But, when the hot water cools, it will create a strong vacuum and you won’t be able to unscrew the lid. You can use a knife or other stiff, thin object to crack the lid rim to break the seal, but at some point, if you repeat that over and over and over, you may do damage to the pot (that’s only conjecture on my part, I’m not saying it *will* happen).

    Practice breaking the vacuum at home first – it’s disconcerting to experience this for the first time on the trail!

    I’ve had the Bot 700 in my kit for the past 3 years and it’s one of my favorite pieces of gear. I bought it with the same ideas you have, and use it regularly for water storage and cold soaking in addition to cooking with all types of fuel.

    #3760555
    Brad W
    BPL Member

    @rocko99

    @Ryan what would you consider it’s most useful feature of this? As a non-plastic container and it’s ability to cold soak?

    #3760556
    Ryan Jordan
    Admin

    @ryan

    Locale: Central Rockies

    I’m not an exclusive cold-soaker. I like some hot, some cold meals. And coffee and tea (hot). So I’d like to have both functions. No sense carrying a pot and a cold-soak plastic jar when this can do both.

    Plus, the plastic jars get janky, this is much easier to clean.

    I also use it as a secondary water container if I’m going “minimalist” and just taking along, say, one small water bottle.

    #3760557
    Brad W
    BPL Member

    @rocko99

    Thanks Ryan.

    #3760584
    Kyler B
    BPL Member

    @live4backcountry09

    Locale: Kootenays

    Thanks everyone! I’m going to pass on the BOT. Doesn’t quite fit my needs. I feel like it’s almost there.

     

    Too bad the the threads and seals don’t work as well as say a nalgene. I thought for the price that maybe they would but hey I don’t know anything about manufacturing these kinds of things so maybe it is a good value.

    #3760658
    Diane “Piper” Soini
    BPL Member

    @sbhikes

    Locale: Santa Barbara

    I have a 17 oz HDPE plastic screwtop jar. HDPE can handle hot or cold water. I tested the jar and it seals really well. If I opt to go without a stove, I can use it for cold soaked foods and it would be the only thing I need. If I bring a stove and a small titanium cup to heat water in, then I can use the jar for hot cozy cooking and the titanium cup for a hot drink with my meal. Almost equivalent to your Vargo BOT idea.

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