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Adding guy out points to Cuben shelters?

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Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedNov 30, 2015 at 8:27 am

I was curious how easy it would be to add some guy out points to a cuben fiber shelter.  With cuben tape adhering so well I didn’t know if anyone had tried “stick on” guy outs.  I know Zpacks sells some stick on loops but they don’t look strong enough to be used for that purpose.

 

I have a be a cuben MLD Solomid XL that I bought for and used on a two week trip in Alaska’s Brooks Range this summer and it did well using two poles in an inverted v, but the lack of guy outs  concerns me as I am used to more perimeter guy outs and more guy outs on the large unsupported fabric panels.  It currently only has a guy out on the long side away from the door which I used with an elastic loop as per MLD recommendations.  I had thought about trying to add intermediate staking points along the perimeter and guy points on the two smaller end walls ( above my head and feet) for when I really need to “batten down the hatches”.

I will be using the shelter this Summer in Wind River Range and then again in 2017 in Alaska (Wrangell St Elias NP).

One more Solomid question: I never could get the door pitched quite right. When the shelter was pitched taut with the door closed it got floppy with the door open (I keep the door open if possible) and if I restaked that point to get a good pitch with the door open, closing the door from inside the shelter was either impossible or resulted in a poor floppy pitched door.  Is this just an issue with a small mid or are there ways to improve this?

My other small mid experience is a Golite SL 2 and a few nights in a Gatewood cape which was way too short for me.

PostedDec 1, 2015 at 7:19 am

Not to answer your main question about the guys, but as far as the floppy door…

I’ve been using my MLD cuben duomid for 3-4-ish years now and I’ve never been able to get a door that’s not floppy.  Either it’s taut with the doors closed…then floppy when I keep one door rolled back; or its nice and tight with the door open but in that case I’d never be able to close the doors.  If anyone else has any input here I’d love to hear it!

And where did you want extra guys?  my older Duomid has them all over…

 

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedDec 1, 2015 at 8:10 am

Thanks Jennifer.  That’s what I am afraid of.

 

The Solomid XL has 6 perimeter tie outs and I have thought about adding more.   It also only has one guy out point on the side opposite the door.   It does not have the “short side” guy outs like the Duomid has.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedDec 1, 2015 at 8:34 am

There’s a recent thread about making a cuben mid that has some clues

circle or semicircle of cuben, tape, sew through the several layers of cuben to attach webbing (1/2″ grosgrain is probably strong enough)

Peter H BPL Member
PostedDec 1, 2015 at 9:46 am

Per your original question: I have used the zpacks stick on loops as guy outs on a 8 x 10 CF tarp with great success. As with all of their stuff, they’re absolutely reliable.

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedDec 1, 2015 at 11:20 am

Thank you Peter.  I saw those but I questioned their ability to take the stress of guy outs.

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