Getting ready to take the plunge on winter backpacking, but I've still got a lot to sort out to get my 3 season setup more prepared for winter. I'll be backpacking in the Smokies primarily (Ridgerunner on the AT), starting in late February. I'll also probably head further north (maybe even New England?) to do some hikes in my off time. I'll probably be in temperatures from the single digits at night to the 50s during the day. So I'm not really going to be focusing on weight for this gear list, this is more of a "is this appropriate gear, and what should I spend money on to make it better and lighter for the conditions" type list. Also I'm going to separate it by category, pack, sleep system, clothing, etc. So to start with:
Sleep System/shelter/pack:
ULA Circuit
MLD Duomid with seekoutside pole, Lawson stakes and MSR groundhogs
Cheap "Ultralight" walmart tarp for floor, don't even know what it is made out of…
Western Mountaineering Antelope 5F
Thermarest Neoair Xlite regular
Gossamer Gear 1/8" pad
Thermarest Z-lite
I plan on staying in shelters most of the time, and will be adding a Katabatic bristlecone bivy when they are in stock again. GG pad is to go underneath my Xlite (paranoid about it popping, I'm currently in the desert southwest so it's been pretty necessary), zlite goes on top. I figure my R-value should be somewhere around 6 with all three combined. Going to replace the stupid walmart tarp with a GG groundsheet or tyvek.
Clothing for hiking:
REI nylon pants
Exofficio boxer briefs
Smartwool midweight long johns
Montbell precip rain pants
Icebreaker 200wt long sleeve top
EMS Polartech stretchy fleece, midweight
EMS Polartech Neoshell anorak
Asolo Fugitive GTX boots
Smartwool hiking socks
Montbell merino gloves
MLD eVent rain mitts
I think setup is pretty good. Most of the time I actually prefer to wear athletic shorts over my long johns instead of the nylon pants, but I'll be working as a ridgerunner so I need to look a little less silly unfortunately.
Clothing for camp:
Montbell UL down jacket (old, beat up, probably lost a lot of it's already paltry amount of fill)
Montbell fleece pants
Extra pair of Smartwool socks
So this is where I've got a big problem. My Montbell UL is hardly useful at all if it's really cold, to top everything off it's a medium and really should be a large, I got it used for a good deal and usually wear medium but Montbell stuff runs small. If I layer my fleece underneath it and my shell over it I can be pretty damn warm in the 30s when sitting around at camp, but any colder than that and I start to get cold.
For the lower body, long johns + fleece pants + rain pants keeps me pretty warm, but a nice pair of down pants would be even better. The fleece pants are warm enough that I never really need to hike in them, but not warm enough to keep me warm at camp, plus they are heavy. I've been considering the thermawrap pants, but at this point it seems likely that I'll be only using them at rest, so it seems like a pair of down pants would serve me better weight wise, and cost is about the same.
Hands: My rain mitts + midweight merino gloves are great in the 40s, (the mitts actually trap a ton of heat) but not so great in the 20s. I'm considering just a pair of ski gloves or something, but they will probably make my hands sweat while hiking, so I'll just be carrying them all day to use at night… what are some solutions for lower temps? I also have a pair of beat up old possumdown gloves I could layer with the merino ones.
Water filtration/storage:
Platypus 1L
Platypus 2L
Sawyer mini
Really not sure what to do here. Last time I went backpacking in single digits (or lower, no idea really), the 1L froze completely and I was scared the sawyer was going to break from freezing. I kept it in my pocket all day and only took it out to quickly filter, but my pee was freezing instantly when it hit the ground so I'm pretty sure it was cold enough to freeze it in seconds. I'm considering a steripen, but I'm worried how the batteries will hold up in cold weather. I also don't think Platypus bags are really going to cut it when they freeze even when sitting in my pack or next to me in my sleeping bag. What is a good way to insulate water from freezing? I have nalgenes but I'd rather have something lighter if possible.
I know this thread is super long so I'm going to cut it off here. Any help would be appreciated/comments/suggestions. Especially suggestions for a heavier down jacket and good down pants, as that's what I think I'm really missing.






