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Bob Marshall Packraft (Looking for Dave Chenault)

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Dean F. BPL Member
PostedFeb 4, 2015 at 4:33 pm

I'm looking for Dave in particular, but all are welcome to chime in.

For the past few years a pack rafting trip almost identical to the one Luke Schmidt did in his "Packrafting without a Good Map" writeup has been on the short list for the annual summer trip I do with a couple of friends. It looks like this year they are putting it high on the list. So, it would be a trek from the ranger station to the White River, a float down it to the South Fork, then float the South Fork and out, portaging around the hairy part of the canyon. Unfortunately we cannot wait for the flow to be just right- we have to pick a timeframe to plan. I was wondering what timeframe would give us the best odds of good flows (defined as high enough to float us but not high enough to kill us outright).

Late June or early July?

July looks to average 1500-4000 cfs at the Twin Creek gauge (more earlier, obviously) and Dave once described the South Fork at 5000 cfs as "as good as it gets."

Luke Schmidt BPL Member
PostedFeb 4, 2015 at 5:44 pm

Dave is in New Zealand last I heard. So until he gets back I see what I can do to help out.

First Dave has a lot of flow information on his "Crown of the Continent" guide. You can compare that to historic flows and get a reasonably good idea when to schedule.

My trip with Morgan was July 14-17 if I recall. Some of those rapids might have been a bit scary with higher water although it has definitely been done before. I think with the high snow that year the levels were a bit higher then normal.

I went back towards the end of July and the same float was much easier. I posted a video of it on Vimeo that shows some of the rapids at lower water. At 2.13 there is a small wave train. I think this was the one that scared me on the earlier trip. Those weaves were about 3 times as high the first time. At about 2.30 there is a rapid upriver of a narrow spot with a tree across it. Note the hole river left. Those waves will be a lot bigger if the river is high and that hole would be scarier (I didn't even see it the first time, I snuck through river right). You can actually find that spot on Google Earth Pro.

Edit – On my trip with Dave I think the flow was 4500 and that was pushy but nice. I'm pretty sure the flows with Morgan were a bit lower then that.

Hope that helps.

Dean F. BPL Member
PostedFeb 4, 2015 at 6:10 pm

Thanks, Luke!

Yeah, 2014 (when I presume your trip was) had higher than average flows. During your trip the flows at Twin Creek look to have been about 2500 cfs, rather higher than the average.

I think you're answering my question.

And, yes, I have Dave's guide, though it's from 2013 so he may have updated it.

I've been squinting at the Twin Creek gauge very intently for a while now, and I'm thinking second week in July. Dave recommends >3000 cfs for the White River and anything >1000 cfs for the South Fork. So The South Fork should be floatable all of July- the issue is White River. I certainly don't want to do it at 8000 cfs…

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