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pole length for duomid?

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Justin Baker BPL Member
PostedJan 16, 2015 at 8:09 pm

I just got an mld duomid from gear swap and I'm wondering what the ideal pole length is. I don't use trekking poles so I need to get a fixed one.

Also, I was planning on getting some easton aluminum poles. I already have a 48 inch long, .625 inch diameter easton pole that I got for my trailstar. I could add another section, but I'm wondering if the .625 is overkill and I should go with the lighter .490.????

The .625 is 2 ounces with the insert for each 16 inch section while the .490 is 1.2 ounces with the insert for each 16 inch section. That's a big difference in weight.
I'm planning on mostly using my duomid as a bad weather and exposed site shelter (I use my flat tarp for milder weather and in the trees) so I want something that can handle high winds and snow loads – but I'm not going mountaineering or anything like that. Not sure which one would be best.

Thanks!

PostedJan 17, 2015 at 9:33 pm

has all the info you need,but going with a fixef length means you have some figuring to do based on your needs.

http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=105

The center pole height varies with the pitch height, and they list the range at 54 to 58 inches.

If you are going with a fixed length pole splitting the difference at 56" would most likely be the most versatile height.

For a low pitch you can simply can't the bottom of the pole off to the side a bit and with tbe pole vertical,it should give you enough height for air flow.

If it were me,I would use mockup pole to make sure whatever fixed height you decide on would work.

Bob Moulder BPL Member
PostedJan 18, 2015 at 6:31 pm

Is it cuben or sil?

This matters because sil stretches a little after pitching and will most likely need re-tensioning before settling in for the night, or during the night.

If pitching very low to the ground for adverse weather, this means the corner guylines will need to be short. Therefore tension adjustment will likely require pitching the tent with the pole base offset several inches away from the center of the floor (or ground) and then moving it more toward the middle to increase tension, so a pole longer than you think will probably be required. Or you can use a small rock or tree branch to raise the pole a bit.

PostedJan 18, 2015 at 7:50 pm

I feel like my sil Duomid sets up best at somewhere around the 145-150 cm mark. I can stretch the sil higher, but that seems like a bad idea.

It was built in 2013, and I seem to remember Ron saying that they have found an even higher quality silnylon since then. So, depending on vintage, that should get you about right.

My poles extend all the way 155 cm, so I usually offset the pole for more space to move in the back.

PostedJan 18, 2015 at 8:21 pm

One thing is for sure, it would be best to have everything in hand and do a few trial pitches (at least) before commiting to a fixed length.

PostedJan 18, 2015 at 9:27 pm

FWIW, I like to angle the pole a bit to one side. If you want to do this you might need a little more length.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedJan 18, 2015 at 10:15 pm

I use 0.433 poles 60 inches long for MYOG pyramid.

If it gets pretty windy, like 30 MPH, it starts to bend a little, but nowhere near breaking.

If you're mountaineering or camping in hurricanes 0.433 would be too small.

I also have a 0.625 pole which seems way over-kill. But, maybe for a couple extra ounces this is better.

Whatever you get, you can get it a couple inches too long. Try it out a time or two. Maybe cut them down if it seems too tall. Hacksaw works good. File it smooth.

Justin Baker BPL Member
PostedJan 19, 2015 at 10:51 pm

Thank you all for the suggestions. I'm going to end up with 64 inches because the pole comes in 16 inch sections, but I plan on cutting it down anyways.

Alex Wallace BPL Member
PostedJan 20, 2015 at 10:22 am

Mine is normally set to the 58"-60" range. I use an adjustable pole (older style Seek Outside carbon fiber), which makes it very easy to adjust in the wee hours. If I notice a bit of slack in the pitch, I just raise the pole until everything is taut again. Much easier than going out and adjusting the lines. It also keeps the shape of the 'mid less pinched in the corners.

If I was using a non-adjustable pole, I would definitely shoot for a bit too long and just angle it a bit. Then, if you need a bit more height, you can lessen the angle of the pole and raise things up.

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