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Exped SynMat UL 7 MW vs NeoAir xTherm Large

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PostedJan 5, 2015 at 8:08 am

Hi Folks,

I know there has been a bunch of discussion regarding these two pads in general but couldn't find anything specific to width and these pads. I currently have a NeoAir xTherm regular 20×72 and as others have noted despite being a slim 5'8" individual and a side sleeper find it a bit too narrow for comfort. Its seems the obvious choices are the Synmat UL 7 MW or just upgrading to a large xTherm. They both appear to weigh the same (20oz). Differences are:

Size:
Exped 26×72
TaR 25×77

Packed size:
Exped 3.7×11
TaR 4.5×11

Shape:
Exped rectangle
TaR tapered

R-value:
Exped 3.1
TaR 5.7

I'm leaning towards the NeoAir as I love the r-value of my current pad and overall the functionality is fine.

What do you folks think? Anyone with experience using both?

Thanks!

Michael

TAG in AZ BPL Member
PostedJan 5, 2015 at 12:07 pm

I own both the XTherm Large and the Exped MW. As a baseline I'm 5'10" and about 200 pounds and do most of my backpacking here in the Southwest.

I had, and returned the regular size XTherm because it was too narrow for me to get comfortable on as I shifted from side to back to side, etc.

I prefer the Exped MW because I move around quite a bit at night and it is quieter as well as I find the slightly raised outer baffles keep me nicely centered on the pad. The Exped also packs smaller. I use the Exped MW in temps down to freezing without a problem. However, if the temps are going into the 20's or lower, I'll bring the XTherm and just set up my tent a little further from everyone. I've had no durability issues with either pad after at least 20 nights on each.

I guess that doesn't help you much. Both are great pads.

Adam Kramer BPL Member
PostedJan 5, 2015 at 12:13 pm

and am a side sleeper. i liked the exped better at first because it seemed to keep me centered better, but found that in the field, the fabric was way to slick for a tent bottom and for my pillow and i ended up sliding all over the place so i sold it.

also, to note, i see they are coming out with a rectangular xtherm for 2015…50d bottom instead of the 70d they use now though.

Doug Smith BPL Member
PostedJan 5, 2015 at 12:15 pm

I'm 5-10, 185lbs and I own both of these pads as well. I strongly prefer the X-therm. To me, the warmth makes a night and day difference, I feel like heat is just burning up through the X-therm, which is very nice when camping in chilly weather. I also have never been able to get comfortable on a pad with vertical baffles like the Synmats. That was the key deciding factor for me. I also find I slip and slide a lot less on the X-therm, which is a great bonus.

That said, I honestly wish both pads were an inch or two wider.

PostedJan 5, 2015 at 1:16 pm

Thanks folks I didn't expect so many to have experience with both, so great. Thanks for the feedback.

I did see the new TaR MAX versions but they are heavier still and I suspect the 20" would still be too narrow for me.

I can certainly get by with the 20" but if its only another 4oz for a wider mat its a weight penalty I'm willing to pay for.

M

Doug Smith BPL Member
PostedJan 5, 2015 at 1:32 pm

I couldn't agree more Michael. Once I went to pads wider than 20" I actually started being able to sleep at night. Narrow pads are awful.

PostedJan 8, 2015 at 10:24 am

Thought I'd post a conclusion as often threads in forums seem to just fall off a cliff. Decided on the xTherm L partly because I knew what I was going to get from a comfort and warmth point of view. A key deciding factor is also that on the 2014 model the bottom is still the 70d material so that bit of extra toughness is appealing. Tried it our today in the yard and while it is longer than I really need the extra width makes a truly night and day difference to comfort over the regular. I'll have to find those 5 extra oz somewhere else! ;)

M

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