Full zip Capiline 4 hoodie alternate ?

MEC have something similar, it's called the T2.
I have it and the Cap 4 and they are very similar.

The new mec T2 is no longer similar to the cap4

They use a powerdry with smaller bumps and a bit less gap between them

Its more similar to the dead bird phase SV in that regard

;)

Not any cheaper that the Pat, which is what I assume you meant by “knock off”, but uses PDHE and is for all intents and purposes identical. Thermo Hoody.

Cap4-Thermo comparison thread here.

A quick google of “power dry high efficiency hoody” yields products from :
Black Diamond
North Face
Armada Skis

Again…not really any cheaper, but they each bring something slightly different to the party.

A PowerDry (not HE) option: Cabellas

Thanks

http://www.campmor.com/terramar-ecolator-3-full-zip-fleece-hoodie-men-39-s.shtml

Interesting – wonder how trustworthy the stated weight is on that Terramar hoodie:

http://www.terramarsports.com/product/W8761?productsearch=Zip

States 230 grams (8.11 ounces).

"Interesting – wonder how trustworthy the stated weight is on that Terramar hoodie:"

I've no way of knowing for sure, but that seems pretty light, and I'd venture a "no" on that 8.1oz.
I have Terramar's older Geo Fleece 3.0 bottoms and the crew neck pullover top.
The size Medium bottoms are 221g/7.8oz, and the size Large top(that I just took off to weigh) came in at 286g/10.08oz, and it has no zipper, hood, or hand pockets.

But then again, just to play devils advocate, the Geo stuff is older (thus likely heavier), and I've just recently weighed their Helix shirt and it came in right on the money for what they posted as the weight.

I'm going to go out on a limb and try the hoody just to dodge the Patagucci tax. If there is interest I'll go beyond posting a real world weight when it comes in and do a full on user review. I need something lighter than my climashield insulated hoody which is 16oz anyhow.

"But then again, just to play devils advocate, the Geo stuff is older (thus likely heavier)"

Maybe so. Hopefully you'll be happy with it, either way.
The older bottoms I mentioned are a bit heavy compared to similar products, too.
I don't have any Cap4 to compare, but recently bought the mid and polar weight ECWCS Powerdry bottoms from Cabelas, and they are 7.0 and 7.7oz, respectively.
I like all of them, and the Terramar stuff has been great, regardless. Certainly has bang-for-the-buck on its side!

Pay attention to fabric weight. The reason Cap 4 works so well is the light weight.

…and Polygiene for odor control.

>…and Polygiene for odor control.

+1. Without that it's just another stanky layer.

Anyone know the weight count on the mens large cap 4 hoody?

That Marmot hoody is listed as 1 pound which would make it way warmer than the cap 4.
This is assuming that the weight is correct. Just looking at the picture it looks thin, not thick.
I ordered 2 marmot pieces of clothing recently and the weights were way off what was listed. The precip jacket was 11.8 ounces in size large instead of the listed 13.1 ounces and the stride vest I think was like 6.6 ounces in size medium instead of the listed 5 ounces.

Based on my very poor experience with a very expensive and under-performing Marmot Super Mica, followed by a poor and underwhelming experience with their customer service department, I would advise you to seek a better solution.

>>Anyone know the weight count on the mens large cap 4 hoody?

My XXL is 10.5 oz.
Listed at 8.5 oz and I assume that is a medium so maybe 9oz + for a large.

8.64 oz for my XL.

My medium is 7.5 oz (just for comparison).

Edit: it's a few years old, before it was called "EW."