‘New’ MSR Groundhog pegs

Yes, they were redesigned.

Yes, they are just as good.

http://www.cascadedesigns.com/msr/tents/tent-accessories/secure/groundhog-tent-stakes/product

Hey Ross, did you get these in the UK? If so, I'd be interested to know where.
Cheers.

Thanks Ben.

@William – I did. Via a UK ebay seller all_outdoor along with some mini's. They did well with my Hubba (now sold) so I'm going to do a mixed set on my new Trekkertent Edge I have on order.

The last lot I got from Wildtrac in Newcastle.

I've got some of the old ones and the new ones. The new ones have curved "fins", like a big version of the mini-Groundhog stakes. Little bit smaller diameter cord attached to the top. Six in one, half dozen in the other.

They are minimally lighter.

MSR website says 10% lighter.

My old ones are 18-19g & all my news ones 14g

Ross thanks for posting this. Are the side fins noticeably curved or more accurately "corkscrewed" like an impeller? They appear straight in photos and just wanted to make sure before picking more up. No chance you're talking about Mini curved version? Or is the curve so slight that you can only see it looking straight at the tip along the spine?

The newer (2nd gen.) MSR Ground Hog stakes all have curved "blades" for improved holding.

I have both the regular and short length stakes, depending on where I'm going to be backpacking.

These, are to my knowledge, the best holding stakes for the weight.

It seems the backpacking elves at Cascade Designs are always looking for ways to improve gear.

Thanks Eric – can you see the curve of the fins looking from the side of the stakes? I'm asking because the product page on the company website features a photo that appears to show straight fins in a sideways view, so perhaps the impeller shape is so slight it's only visible looking at it head on.

Would like to make sure I'm picking up the current version for the weight savings.

They are curved, but not twisted as the Cyclones are. The curve is quite obvious from a head-on view, but because there is no twist, the curve is only readily apparent from the side if one directs one's attention to the tapered portions. (Those will appear to twist, although it's only an illusion.)

-J

On mine, the fin curve is only 1" at the point, and for some reason also at the head. The rest of the shaft is straight like the original ones.

Here are the newer ones… on these the curve is the full length of the stake.

I just received a set of the new (according to MSR) Ground Hog stakes directly from MSR – no curve whatsoever – all fins are straight as an arrow from tail to head. The photo of the newly designed stakes on MSR shows the fins totally straight as well. Which makes me think the redesign just slightly reduced the weight, and Bob you just happened to get a set that was made with a slight curve to the fins, but that they're not supposed to be made that way, so consider yourself lucky to have a "magic" set : )

Mine have the curve as well. Definitely standard now. Also, I broke one pretty quickly after getting it and I'd had the old style for 3+ years with no breaks.

Upon reading these posts I went downstairs and took another look at my 2014 Groundhogs. They are in fact just as Bob said–curved the full length of the stake. I guess I was a victim of an optical illusion. The curves of the tips and the heads seem more pronounced, but the whole length of the stake is actually curved the same way.