NeoAir XLite small + CCF sit pad = makes sense?

Hi Greg,

I understand you are taking a quilt.
When Amtrak and I walked the Sierra, Amtrak had a serious cold nights issue with a similar setup of a small neo-air and a ZPacks quilt.

After suggesting to him that it is possible that hot air is flowing out of the quilt through the height difference between his air-pad and cff-pad, He tried to block it with his rain coat with partial success. Upon arriving to the nearest town, he bought the regular x-lite and problem was solved for the remainder of his PCT hike. He wrote about it on the Israeli hiking forum.

The weight difference is pretty negligible and insulation together with a quilt much improved (as well as comfort IMOH).

HarmonicWave

Thats what i do most of time. Winter would be exception.

Xlite shory is quite narrow at bottom, its the foot width of regular, but at thighs=really narrow.

Dont know why mfg does this, its like they pretend the short pads are for dwarfs or something?

I use GG nightlite pad. This setup gives sitpad, and backup ccf torso pad in case of xlite damage on long trip. I never depend on just neoair, always have some ccf for that reason.

Hi Yair, thanks for your reply, it's very helpful.

ZPacks bag is not a quilt if I get it right. It's a sleeping bag with option to unzip it open up to 3/4 its length. At least if you don't ask for some mod. So keeping this in mind probably the issue is that in his bag there was no draft tube on the zipper. Joe designed the bag so you sleep right on the zipper. I'll ask him regarding the mods he did to his bag.

The EE Enigma quilt has sued footbox, so the escaping warm air could be not a problem with it. I need to check it. Thank you for your valuable input!

Greg.

ZPacks also sells (or sold) quilts with no zippers.

You can read Amtrak's report about it here:

http://pct14.blogspot.co.il/2014/12/my-post-hike-gear-review-big-three-1.html

I use a similar set up for 3 seasons (too cold for me in the winter), except I can't get comfortable with an Xlite due to the awkward oval shape. Did it on a few trips and it wasn't for me.

Instead I switched back to my Prolite3 and throw my Gorilla under my legs with the Sitlight pad and it does the trick.

Hi,

You can cut CCF pad to the exact shape of XLite. So both edges will match. Thanks for the input.

Greg

Seems like if the sleeping pads are both outside your quilt, that would help with the drafts.

To me the difference in thickness of the two pads makes this uncomfortable. I ended up getting a full length Neoair, and I still carry a small sit pad.