Dec 7, 2014 at 9:33 pm #1323465
I'm assuming their warmth is more or less the same, but what about dry time? I know that Cap 4 is made from Polartec PowerDry HE and phase SV is arcteryx's own fabric blend.
While we're at it we might as well throw Under Armor 4.0 into the mix.
Any input is appreciated.Dec 7, 2014 at 10:16 pm #2154950
From the pix I can find of the Phase SV, it looks like the old expedition weight Power Dry fabric. I'm sure that it wicks and dries well, but a fairly heavy base layer material.
The Power Dry HE is a different ballgame. It has grids that are heavy material alternating with lines of very, very light fabric that dries and breathes like crazy. I can't imagine that there is any comparably warm base layer that wicks, breaths, and dries quicker. It really is fantastic for high aerobic/sweaty cold weather activity.
Here's a close up photo of the inner surface of the Cap 4 fabric I posed a while back:Dec 7, 2014 at 10:27 pm #2154951
And the Marmot version of Polartec Power Dry HE. For all intents and purposes, it's identical to the Patagonia version, but the grida aren't abraded away quite as much at the edges. I haven't seen the LLBEAN version yet, but I'm guessing it's he same as the Marmot version.Dec 7, 2014 at 10:39 pm #2154955
Ok, I saw a good sale on cap4 at basegear.com and I got a LS Crew for $60 shipped. I'll see how it works. I just had a poor experience with Nike Profit so in general I have disliked synthetics, but technology seems to have come a long way so I'm going to give it another shot.Dec 7, 2014 at 10:45 pm #2154957
If I like the Cap4 I might purchase a phase SV LS crew just to compare them. Though I'm rapidly approaching a point where I have more than enough base layers…Dec 7, 2014 at 11:56 pm #2154960James holdenBPL Member
i have the phase SV, phase AR, old cap4, T2/T3
with similar weight fabrics its all roughly around the same … i wash em all the time in batches and none stand out significantly in term os drying time
in fact i just washed a whole ton of them yesterday … all the synthetics and fleeces are dry … none of the merino ones are
;)Dec 8, 2014 at 7:57 am #2154998Woubeir (from Europe)BPL Member
Phasic SV is definitely not Power Dry e.g. Power Dry is 100% polyester en Phasic SV contains 8% polypropylene.Dec 8, 2014 at 9:44 am #2155035chris smeadBPL Member
@hamsterfishLocale: San Jose, CA
I recently switched from Phase SV to Cap 4. I think Phase SV might dry a tiny bit faster….maybe.
The reason I switched is that the cap4 feels warmer and more breathable. Thus better across a wider range of temps when combined with a wind shell.
Both are excellent payers though in my opinion, so it's hard to go wrong.
-ChrisDec 8, 2014 at 11:31 am #2155068
Are we talking about drying when you take it out of the washing machine? Or drying when you are wearing it and it gets damp?Dec 8, 2014 at 4:06 pm #2155134AnonymousInactive
"Phasic SV is definitely not Power Dry e.g. Power Dry is 100% polyester en Phasic SV contains 8% polypropylene."
This thread is referencing primarily Capilene 4 aka Polartec Power Dry High Efficiency. This has 8% spandex in the tops i have.Dec 9, 2014 at 6:18 am #2155267Bob MoulderBPL Member
@bobmny10562Locale: Westchester County, NY
>>>>all the synthetics and fleeces are dry … none of the merino ones are
BingoDec 9, 2014 at 6:37 am #2155270Woubeir (from Europe)BPL Member
Euh, I was just responding to this: "From the pix I can find of the Phase SV, it looks like the old expedition weight Power Dry fabric." And OK, there may be some spandex in it, but that's only to add stretch.Dec 9, 2014 at 12:55 pm #2155357AnonymousInactive
I see, well in any case i was just pointing it out for clarity's sake. Yes, the spandex is for stretch. Might slow down the drying time very slightly, but not enough for it to be significant.
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