Tarptent Protrail

I am not Henry, nor Franco but I am online right now so here goes: No rear struts. Uses a trekking pole in front and a trekking pole at the back (or I guess with optional TT poles), with the rear pegged like an inverted 'V' with taller height than that of the Contrail. Packs small.

That is why I am confused, on the bushwalk forum franco clearly stated the rear could be set up with 1 stake which I don't see how that could be possible without a moment/double moment like folding strut.

Okay – I just read what Franco said and I think he means that there will be struts that can be used like an inverted V that would only require one peg OR you can leave them behind and use a trekking pole, which would require an extra couple of pegs.

Franco: "The Pro Trail will not use the std Pitch Lock corner (a TT patent) because it will have the option of using built in struts (1 peg possible) or use your trekking pole (2 or 3 pegs). The "use your pole option" does not save much weight at all because of the extra peg or two but allows the shelter to be stuffed (rather than folded and rolled) so easier to store for some."

I am hoping that the struts are a purchase option because I much prefer the idea of using a trekking pole. My discussion with Mr. Henry suggested the rear trekking pole set up which peaked my interest.

I know nothing of the shelter at all, but I wonder if you could use your second trekking pole along the ground at the back to negate the need for two extra stakes, like the Rainbow (I think it's the Rainbow anyway).

Should work if there were struts in there. Yes indeed.

I wonder what the minimum length is for the foot end though? Perhaps not all telescoping trekking poles will work?

It ships with plenty of rear cording to allow for adjusting to fit virtually any telescoping pole (and easy to add more cording to extend up to fit any fixed length pole. Here it is with the Gossamer Gear 2-section pole which only breaks down to 33 inches.

-H

So no struts and only two stakes at the foot end?

>So no struts and only two stakes at the foot end?

Correct.

Looks like a very nice light, wind-stable shelter – looking forward to reading more about it.

How does it differ from the TrekkerTent Stealth 1 in internal space, height, vestibule space, etc.? Perhaps slightly different category as the Protrail looks like a single wall, whereas the Stealth uses a separate internal net tent?

http://www.trekkertent.com/home/home/3-stealth.html

Henry, when can I buy one?

The ProTrail is a modified Contrail a tent that has been around since 2006 , itself a modified Virga dating back to 1999.
Note that the ProTrail design is on every Tarptent sold.

Franco…..no fair confusing the dense like that. Are you saying there is no new tent called the Protrail being offered in the future and the pictures above are of a modified Contrail? Please advise.

What I am saying is that the 2015 ProTrail is the continuation of a design that started in 1999 with a the tent* Henry made for himself to do the PCT, the one that became the Virga, then the Contrail and soon the ProTrail.

*the plans for that 1999 tent are still on our pages, just in case you want to make your own :
http://www.tarptent.com/projects/tarpdesign.html

Thanks Franco, I'd much prefer to buy from Henry, I get straight seams and he gets a little profit.

Looks like the Virga. I was about to buy one and then the Contrail came out so I passed. Looks like I may get another chance!

I can see that the Protrail is an improvement over the Contrail for storm worthiness and it may be even a bit lighter.

My 1st Tarptent was a Contrail and I liked it a lot. After 4 summers I sold it when the Moment came out because i wanted more wind worthy design with less canopy flapping. Another 4 summers and I sold it too and got a Moment DW with ripstop interior.

Looking at the Protrail I can see its appeal for a light, stable tent. I guess I'd still take the original single wall Moment with my custom internal X-ing pole rig over the Protrail just for the greater snow/wind load capability. I have SUCH a soft spot for the Moment design. This winter I'll be back in Las Vegas' Spring Mountains above 8,000 ft. in my Moment DW. Can't wait.

Question is….when can we order????

http://www.tarptent.com/whatsnew.html

Please ignore some of my comments above.
For the final specs and details do check the What's new page, the link posted by Dave U in the other thread and Doug here
this one :
http://www.tarptent.com/whatsnew.html