Quick Fleece Question

Do you want this midlayer to be used while (a) moving or (b) while stopped?

for the most part it would be for stopping. I get too sweaty when I move. Probably all the fat on me :) so when I stop it would be nice to have something to stick on or use when I first get going until I get too sweat, which honestly is not too long. My temp range is for winter stuff is usually down to about 10 degrees. I have not gone too far past that yet, mainly due to 20 degree bag. But I am in Missouri so mainly cold, wind and snow. Not too much rain. I do have a Marmot Super Mica for rain jacket and some dri duck pants for the bottom if I need them.

I've never understood expensive fleece. Polyester is a super-cheap fiber, and there's nothing new or complicated about the way it's being woven. I'm sure the Terramar is perfectly fine.

I can't bring my self to drop the 120 on the expensive stuff. That is why I am looking at these two items.

my wife got my "REI" fleece vest from Goodwill

they have many fleece items there, and they're cheap

There is a difference between cheap and "expensive fleece. I have fleece items from Patagonia, REI brand, and a cheap no-name tourist souvenir shop. The Patagonia and REI are very similar in quality as far as I can see and feel, but the cheap one is visibly more open in weave (you can all but see through it!). But with a windbreaker over it, it still provides warmth.

Why did I buy the cheap souvenir one? Cuz when my wife and I got to one of our favorite"quick escape" areas, I realized I hadn't packed any insulation, and it was colder than expected. I didn't want to buy another "expensive" fleece, so I went with the cheap one. If someone wants a thin men's L gray "Morro Bay" fleece jacket, it's yours for the price of shipping!

I am all for the cheap stuff if I can get away with it. Part of the reason I am looking at these two items. Does anyone have any weight info or how these perform? I can kind of leaning towards the Ecolator as it seems to have a bit more robust hood, it is a full zip and has thumb loops which I like. Might have more "performance" than the Geo Fleece. Terramar's website says 230 grams which I suspect is a small or medium. I will probably need an xl, maybe a large. I could not find the Geo Fleece on their website.

http://www.terramarsports.com/product/W8761

Some experience with Terramar products over here. I have a hat and my best friend has a fleece of theirs that he wears constantly. Quality seems pretty good. I'd be happy with a fleece of theirs. Don't know about those specific versions.