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Enchantment Lakes Washington – Some Questions

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Matthew H BPL Member
PostedSep 26, 2014 at 12:08 am

Hey guys. I'm heading up into the Enchantments with a core zone permit on the 30th of September till the 5th of October. I'm trying to look at weather forecasts but I'm getting mixed signals. Some forecasting highs of 40 with a chance of snow, some say just raining, some partly cloudy.. which forecast is generally most accurate in this area?

Also, I'm still unsure of the kind of gear I'll need for this area. For cool weather I currently have the Patagonia Nano Air (or Arc'teryx Atom LT), Patagonia R1 Hoody, Arc'teryx Cerium LT Hooded Down Jacket, Patagonia Cap 4 base layer (top) and Cap 3 base layer (bottoms), thin fleece gloves, beanie and wool socks. I'm presuming I'll need some warmer gloves and a warmer pant of some kind? Maybe fleece?

I have a pretty terrible rain jacket that soaks through. If expecting possible snow, what lightweight hardshell should I be looking at? I was considering the Arc'teryx Alpha FL, any better suggestions?

Also, the only real tent I have ATM is a TT Stratospire 2 or ZPacks Solplex (of which I haven't really gotten along with so far). Not sure how this would handle possible snow up there?

Any advice would be great as I've only recently moved from Australia this would be my first time hiking in this kind of cold and with snow if these forecasts are correct.

PostedSep 26, 2014 at 7:09 am

The reason the weather forecasts conflicting is that they don't know. Go prepared for the worst plus a bit worse than the worst forecast.

As for rain gear. Snow is just as wet as rain. You might think snow is not water, but it is water. Even really dry snow when it hits the warmth of your clothing/rain jacket melts into water. If your rain jacket leaks, you will be wet in snow.

Billy

Matthew H BPL Member
PostedSep 26, 2014 at 9:25 am

Thanks Billy. Yes I will definitely need a new hard shell before heading up.. I've been putting it off because of the cost but if I'm to do this hike it may be unavoidable. Really dreading the hike up with 5 days worth of food and 12lb of photography gear.

Katherine . BPL Member
PostedSep 26, 2014 at 10:05 am

Throwing this out there for others to weight in: If cost is the factor, would DriDucks/Frogg Toggs be reliable enough?

Cause it's cheap and light. I have one, but haven't put it to the test.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedSep 26, 2014 at 12:46 pm

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-120.79221&lat=47.48786 is pretty good forecast. You can scroll around and get forecast for anyplace.

still far out for accurate forecast – wait a couple days

eVent jacket probably good. or Gore-Tex.

snow is much easier than rain, but if there's snow, it'll probably be wet snow, which is the same as rain

GPS would be good. Possible, there'de be enough snow to obscure trail. As you're walking in, look back where you came from so you'll know how to get back, even if there's snow covering the trail. Like, see which valley you want to go back down.

I've always gone there in early September, but I've seen trip reports for early October with some snow.

Weather forecasts say it will just barely go below freezing at night, so you probably don't need fleece for hiking – just base layer and jacket. It might go down to 20 F so make sure you bring extra warm stuff. It won't be that cold during the day so probably fleece gloves and beanie are sufficient.

Matthew H BPL Member
PostedSep 28, 2014 at 11:12 pm

Thanks Jerry. The forecast has cleared a bit and it doesn't look like I will really get any snow/rain. I think I have enough warm gear with the Cap 4/Atom LT/Cerium LT and Cap 3 legs. Appreciate the assistance! Now just to hope the larches are going to be good up there!

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