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PostedSep 21, 2014 at 8:59 am

Hello,

I was wondering if I could get some advice about which sleeping bag and down jacket to buy. This is my first set of equipment I am buying after borrowing equipment for backpacking and ending up on the 40-50 lbs range. I plan to be backpacking in the pacific northwest, especially the cascades and Olympics. I think that means that I need to be comfortable in down to around 30 for 3-season use, does that sound right?

After doing some research, the bag I thought might be best would be the vireo ul. I had an opportunity to go the FF store and try the vireo, and it seemed alright as far as not having a zipper and the width of the bag. My thoughts were that if I needed a jacket anyways, why not get a lighter bag that allows you to easily where one inside? A couple of other factors would be how well it handles warmer temperatures as far as getting too hot. Also, I am interested in compress-ability because I would to see how much I can fit in by 31L pack.

Are there any other sleeping bags out there that would be better, in terms of the correct temperature rating, weight, and compress-ability? I seem to toss and turn a bit so I was worried a quilt wouldn't be for me.

Finally, I not sure what jacket to go with. I was looking for something that could turn the 45 rated top half of the vireo into a comfortable-at-30 bag. I was a little worried that that some of the really light montbell ones (plasma, ex light) and similar from other manufactures might be too light. I wasn't sure if I need a full on parka though. Could anyone provide some recommendations?

Thanks,
Eric

PostedSep 21, 2014 at 10:51 am

if I'm understanding you, you are looking for a sleeping bag (like a mummy), not a quilt?

I use a Sierra Designs Cal 30 for 3 seasons in the PNW. 1lb 7oz for the long, compresses really small, uses DriDown (if you care)

I pair this with a cheap Coscto down jacket. I've used them together into the high 20s. I sleep pretty warm though.

Other bag I would consider is Western Mountaineering Megalight. I was looking at that one, but the Cal 30 was on clearance, and I'm cheap!

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PostedSep 21, 2014 at 11:16 am

Having spent several past years hiking a bit in the North Cascades and Olympics, I would want a warmer bag for 3-season use, and since you're worried about using the bag when it's warmer, I think you might be better off with a quilt. JMHO, I would get a 20-degree quilt, but you could probably get more versatility with a 30-degree quilt and a good jacket to pair with it if temps drop. Enlightened Equipment makes a killer quilt.

If you're looking at down jackets and price isn't an object, you can't go wrong with Feathered Friends. The Mountain Hardwear Ghost Whisperer gets good marks from some of my hiking buddies, but my FF is one of my favorite pieces of gear.

PostedSep 21, 2014 at 2:03 pm

So do you think the combination of Enigma/Pro/Elite and the FF Helios would be good? Do I need a shell for the coat or quilt to keep them dry. Also, what happens when you are hiking all day and are sweaty and then put on the down jacket? Would that be enough to ruin it? My thoughts are to start with the sleeping bag and wait for the jacket until I want to spend on it. In the mean time I'll take an existing jacket or get a cheaper down one.

Thanks,
Eric

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PostedSep 21, 2014 at 4:14 pm

Sweaty after hiking. Sponge bath and/or long underwear of appropriate weight for sleeping in. Summer trips with higher temps we do same with less clothing for sleeping but then you can sometimes get by without the bag/quilt all together.

jimmyb

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PostedSep 21, 2014 at 4:34 pm

So do you think the combination of Enigma/Pro/Elite and the FF Helios would be good?

>Would be boss.

Do I need a shell for the coat or quilt to keep them dry.

>No.

Also, what happens when you are hiking all day and are sweaty and then put on the down jacket? Would that be enough to ruin it?

>What jimmy b said. Wool longjohns or a light baselayer fleece depending upon conditions.

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