Presi traverse and Pemi loop late September gear list

Depending on how much you drink I would want at least 2L of water carrying capacity. I usually have 1.5 dirty bottle and 1.5 L of clean capacity. There are a couple big stretches between water on the Presi and Pemi's (i've done them both as day hikes, and the Pemi a few times as multiday) basically don't count on water above treeline except at huts on Presi

Skip the windshirt. you have a hoody, long sleeve shirt, rain shell, puffy, and arm warmers.. too many long sleeve. same with Beanie.. i'd take the fleece one. you can always put your puffy over your head at night or wear your hoody

take the lighter short gaiters. why 2 gaiters? you are going to be mostly on rocks. I use Dirty Girls 100% of the time.

Unless when you start there is a major threat of heavy rain i'd skip the GTX socks.. there are no major stream crossings on either route.

Do you have an idea about how you want to break up the Presi traverse? It has some tricky camping options that aren't in ideal spots. I honestly think doing it in a day is easier than carrying camping gear for multiday.

I would say Solomid or GoLite for a bit more enclosure. Your camping options will be on wooden tent platforms most likely. There is also a shelter at Guyot shelter on Pemi that can save you a night of setting up that is nice. assuming the standard pemi Guyot, Garfield, Liberty springs for camping. (highly suggest the quick side trip to W. Bond, skip Galehead)

Guyot and The Perch are the only cheap shelters on those routes ($8 per person at Guyot and at campsites ($10 at Perch) if the caretaker is there, be prepared with cash) Huts are around $100

I have lots of info about both of those hikes if you have questions. If you don't have it, pick up http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3669092 peak at the trail descriptions if you have the AMC book but don't hike with that brick. the map is all i use now.

Actually, the first piece of clothing I want above treeline in the White Mountains is a windshirt. I wore one all morning on the Franconia ridge earlier this week. Even on a beautiful day, it was windy enough that a long-sleeve running shirt wasn't enough. I find a fleece is too hot even for winter hiking. Essential for camping, but I would sweat to death in a fleece while hiking this time of year. Same problem with a Marmot Essence rain jacket (same basic thing as a Mica). Gotta have it for rain, but a sauna bath while actually hiking. I've worn the windshirt 10 times for every one time I've put on the rain jacket.

I carry 2 liters of water minimum on a hike above treeline.

If you can get a reservation, the AMC huts are $127 inc. tax. That includes a bunk, a very substantial dinner and a very substantial breakfast. A very nice experience as well. Free drinking water, so at least stop in and fill up if you pass by.

There is a an online version of the AMC White Mountain Guide that lets you save and print PDF files of any custom route you plan, including a map of your custom route that prints on the first page of the PDF and the detailed trail descriptions from the AMC book, plus exportable GPS tracks (that I download to a Garmin). It's $15 for a one-year subscription. Awesome resource:

https://www.wmgonline.org

Yea, it is all preference. I hike quickly so i'm pretty comfortable in my Icebreaker 200 long sleeve if it is cooler. I also ride my bike year round so I acclimate to cooler temps well. i throw on my Sierra designs Microlight rain jacket/wind shirt if i stop.

I do think he has one too many long sleeves. i'd probably hike in the long sleeve, sleep in the fleece to bump the 20*. puffy in camp, rain jacket for rain or windy summits.

for his purposes the 4000 footer map is plenty.. he said he is only here for this trip so having the subscription. 4k map is all i take now, the mileage between landmarks is awesome to judge progress and orient yourself.

pemi loop from the map (i prefer going counter clockwise)

Velimir, can you speak to how well your inov8s did? I am interested in picking up a pair. Thanks!