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PostedSep 10, 2007 at 11:38 am

I'm looking for an insulating layer and trying to find some good options.

I already have a fleece shirt that I use all the time for a little insulation, and a GoLite Gamut as a waterproof shell, but I need a thicker insulation.

I've been looking at a few options:
1) Mid-weight fleece like a TNF Pumori (200 weight, 24oz)
2) Montbell down-fill half-sleeve inner jacket (listed as 5oz)

What weight down fill jacket is equivalent to 200 weight fleece in terms of insulation?

6oz just seems way too light

Thanks

PostedSep 10, 2007 at 12:28 pm

Andy,

Christopher has asked some very good questions. If this piece is for wearing while on the move in the Adirondacks, you will produce a lot of prespiration moisture even if the weather is cold. Also, the New England area isn't known for its dryness, even in winter. I hike often in the White's of N.H. and I only use sythetic insulations on the trail (I find I only need this in frigid weather with a hefty wool baselayer).

I use a Patagonia Micro Puff hooded jacket which I'm happy with. If really cold weather is predicted for night time, I carry a down vest to were under the jacket, only in camp, to boost my torso warmth at rest. At that point, I'm not prespiring into the down vest and the jacket protects the down from exterior moisture.

The down vest is practically weightless compared to the insurance factor it provides. Of course, if its raining, I cover it all with a poncho.

PostedSep 10, 2007 at 8:03 pm

I've used the fleece shirt and the gamut in cold conditions before, but I'm hoping to use either the down and the gamut to be warmer, or even all three together to be really warm. I'm a twig, so I need a good bit of insulation in cold temps. I've tried 200 weight fleeces, and that's the amount of insulation I would like, but I've never used down jackets, so I didn't know if this montbell would be equivalent to the fleece in terms of insulation. I think I read it's only 1.5oz of down, which seems little and maybe not enough.

I would generally use it around town, but I need the layering for my trips which might be 10 in a year. That's why I considered fleece even though it's heavy. But I'd like a 5oz jacket for the hiking trips.

Steven Evans BPL Member
PostedSep 10, 2007 at 8:22 pm

Hey Andy,
I have the Montbell Half Sleeve. The large comes in at 6.5 oz. Wind cuts through it pretty easily, but it is definitely warmer then my arcteryx fleece. It doesn't feel as nice against the skin as a fleece, but it really is a warm piece of gear. I use it with a pair of arm warmers to sleep in with my Arc AT.
Steve

PostedSep 10, 2007 at 11:12 pm

Andy,
I've tried many insulation layers. The Montbell inner jacket is warmer than 200wt fleece, and it blocks wind better. Richard can quote the objective numbers, but subjectively, it goes 100, 200, inner jacket, then of course the heavier MB Light Alpine Down Jacket which I settled on.
For me its a fleece when moving, the down when stationary.

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