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PostedAug 28, 2014 at 8:30 pm

I need a little help in determining if I've planned for enough calories for an upcoming trip.

Trip details: 3.5 days from Tuolumne Meadows down the John Muir Trail, over Donohue Pass, travel north of Waugh Lake, up towards Parker Pass to rt 120 and back to Tuolumne. It's roughly about 40 miles with elevations ranging from ~9000-12000 ft. I'll be traveling with 3 others. Based on these details I used this link to calculate an average day of hiking:

http://www.nwhiker.com/calorieburn.html

Calculating on the high side (2mph for 7hrs with 3000 ft elevation gain)it estimates I will burn ~2300/day

Me details: I'm 5'10" 165 muscular/lean(approx. 10%BF) and burn mondo calories. I had my Resting Metabolic Rate measured a couple years ago and found I burn about 2100-2200 calories at rest.

My current meal plan for 1 day (subsequent days will be roughly the same within a couple hundred calories):

Breakfast

2 Nature's Path Oatmeal Packets w/ Justin's Chocolate Hazelnut Butter mixed in: 600 calories

Snack 1

Larabar Chocolate Coconut Chew Flavor: 240 calories

Lunch

Packit Gourmet Buffalo Chicken Wrap on Flour Tortilla: 510 calories

Snack 2

Larabar Banana Bread Flavor: 230 calories

Snack 3

5oz. Generic Trail Mix: approx. 700 calories

Dinner

Packit Gourmet Texas Chili: 570 calories

Dessert

(3) 90% Dark Chocolate squares and Justin's Chocolate Almond Butter pack: 360 calories

It totals 3,210 calories with everything included. I know everyone is a little different and I expect to run a little bit of a deficit but:

(1) This seems like a ton of food volume wise once re-hydrated and I don't want to feel sluggish/bloated.

(2) Is the estimated deficit of roughly 1,300 calories/day too much from anyone's personal experience? Theoretically it's a caloric deficit equivalent to a 2.6 lb weight loss/week which is close to whats considered normal, healthy weight loss (0.5-2.0 lbs/week) for people trying to lose weight.

(3) My main concern pertains to athletic performance over the course of the hike.

Long-winded, I know. But thanks for reading and fire away!

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedAug 28, 2014 at 8:39 pm

The only thing that I would suggest is to add some electrolyte beverage powder. If the day is warm enough, that can help performance.

Personally, I would add some caffeine beverage for breakfast. That may or may not carry many calories, but the caffeine tends to boost performance.

–B.G.–

PostedAug 28, 2014 at 9:46 pm

Sounds reasonable. I'm close to you in body type (5'10 180 lbs and athletic) and I eat 1.7 pounds of food per day. I usually average somewhere around 100 cal/oz so that's roughly 2700 calories. Keep in mind that your appetite will probably be suppressed at altitude, I have to force myself to eat that amount of food each day. That level of calorie intake lets me perform at 100% even on longer trips.

PostedAug 28, 2014 at 9:49 pm

And in case you do come back hungry, this is waiting for you at the Meadows Grill when you are finished:

burger

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedAug 28, 2014 at 10:03 pm

"Keep in mind that your appetite will probably be suppressed at altitude, I have to force myself to eat that amount of food each day."

That happens occasionally with me, so that is why I always carry some beverage powder with calories. If I don't have the appetite to eat, I can always drink my calories.

–B.G.–

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedAug 29, 2014 at 9:56 am

There are dozens of beverage powders. For the old school, there is Gatorade. Currently I prefer maltodextrin-based beverages like Cytomax and Vitalyte. I always go with a variety of these so that I can change flavors every day.

–B.G.–

PostedAug 29, 2014 at 1:57 pm

A stop has been added! That sausage sandwich likes like it hits the spot after a hard hike.

I had already planned to bring starbucks via for the morning, and completely agree with using a caffeine shot to get going. I didn't list it because it wasn't really "calories."

I hadn't thought about an electrolyte powder at all, although it makes perfect sense. I tend to shy away from them in regular life because I'm usually not active for long enough in the types of condition where they're warranted. Either of the brands mentioned make single serve packs that are readily available in stores?

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedAug 29, 2014 at 2:12 pm

First of all, remember that the Tuolumne Meadows grill shuts down early in the season, sometime during September.

Gatorade is often available in a package with foil packets for 20 ounces of water. I used to dump one of those into 32 ounces of water to keep it diluted.

Knowing how Gatorade operates, they probably offer a similar foil packet for 8 ounces or 16 ounces of water, and it probably costs more than the one above.

In general, I kind of got fed up with Gatorade (excess sucrose), so I have tried to use it up to get rid of it. Now I stick more to the maltodextrin powders.

–B.G.–

Nick Smolinske BPL Member
PostedAug 30, 2014 at 9:35 pm

Are you carrying any fats? Olive oil (or any fat) is more than 200 calories/oz and it's a great way to carry extra calories, if you don't end up needing it the weight penalty isn't much. Add a lot to dinner if you're really hungry, not so much otherwise.

I'm a similar build, weight and metabolism. I eat 2 pounds per day in the winter and 1.7-1.8 in the summer, but I manage a 125 calories/oz average, so that's 3600 calories per day in the summer. I don't run any caloric deficit that I can tell – I eat whenever I'm hungry and this is how much I've found I need to carry.

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