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Bivy with meash all down the top… has anyone tried this?

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PostedSep 6, 2007 at 6:39 am

I want to ask Ron Bell if he would build me a custom bivy that is like the soul bivy, but with no-see-um mesh that extends from the bug netting window down to the knees, for a width of apx 12".

My thought is:

1) If using an adequate size tarp, I would still have the rain protection I need.
2) Wind would still be cut from getting under or through the sides of a quilt. (Wind cutting through from the top would be minimal wouldn't it?)
3) Better venilation/condensation control.
4) Could still have bug protection on warmer nights where you may have slept on top of the bivy.

I have no experience with bivies – will someone please tell me if this is a good idea, or if I should stick with the standard design? Would it make a difference if I bought the Grace Solo or the Grace Duo tarp? (i.e. rain)

PostedSep 6, 2007 at 6:47 am

I easily admit I could be wrong here, but I'd think that the wind could still cause convective heat loss even with specifications you mention, though it would probably be reduced to some extent. However, it's definitely worth looking at further.

Tom

Steven Evans BPL Member
PostedSep 6, 2007 at 9:50 am

Ryan,
I had the same thought last year, and also wondered if anyone had done it before, but never went through with it. I think it would be a good idea as long as the mesh top is narrower then the width of the bivy (ie. a wide strip down the middle). In big rain storms, my bivy gets a noticable amount of splash on the sides of my bivy even with my tarp pitched about as low as it can go (and I can still get in). Give it a try and let us know. You would lose some wind protection but as long as the tarp is pitched low enough and the weather isn't too harsh, I don't see it being a serious problem. Let us know!

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedSep 6, 2007 at 2:07 pm

Hi Ryan

Rather an interesting idea. If you can arrange for the bivy fabric to be above (ie not touching) your sleeping bag, it is possible this could avoid almost ALL condensation. Maybe a few little tie loops on the bivy to anchor the top to the tarp?

If you do go ahead, let us all know!

Cheers

Jason Brinkman BPL Member
PostedSep 6, 2007 at 6:57 pm

I haven't tried what you described exactly, but I think it sounds like a great idea for the stated conditions. It won't be as warm as a full woven fabric bivy, but for summer conditions that certainly isn't a concern. Noseeum reduces wind velocity (and thus convection) to some degree, but by no means eliminates it. If you have this made, please post pictures and feedback.

PostedSep 7, 2007 at 2:03 pm

I guess if the Soul Bivy and the Bug Bivy ever hooked up, that would be what I'm looking for. More of an actual bivy though than the bug bivy – which doesn't look like it would provide much protection from wind. I e-mailed Ron – he wasn't sure exactly what I was asking, so I'm going to give him a call.

PostedSep 7, 2007 at 2:19 pm

His (Ron's) opinion was that in trying to make an "ultimate do it all bivy" I might end up with a bivy that doesn't work the greatest in all situations. I'm not articulating the point well, but you can probably catch the drift.

I think because it is experimental and I don't know how I would like it, I might end up having this be my first "make my own" bivy. That way, if it isn't such a red hot idea, I'm not out 200+ bucks. I'll let you all know if I end up making it.

PostedSep 7, 2007 at 5:08 pm

Ryan
I do get Ron's point of ending up with a product that is trying to do everything but nothing well , but I still like your idea.
This has been on my mind for sometime as a solution to my sliding off the mat and reducing wind chill ( not a problem for me but some have mentioned that about the Tarptent type design) . Also would help in the shoulder season with my JRB quilt.
One suggestion could be to buy the Equinox bivy, at under 7 oz for $60 it's light and relatively cheap, and then just cut off a foot or so at the top and sew in some no see um mesh.
If you wanted to extend the use and have the skill ( or are brave enough) you could cut the strip on three sides add some Velcro so that it can be sealed again on top of the mesh for those cold nights.
If I had any skills in this area ( or any other for that matter…) I would attempt the closable vent version.
Franco

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