Smd luner vs smd trekker vs Tt contrail

Yes it does.
Tent, 4x stakes and the stuff sack are included.

All good shelters. Here's my take on the Lunar Solo.
Pro: Side entry is easier in and out then the Contrail. Only one pole is needed to pitch as opposed to the Trekker. Most room inside of the three.
Con: I find myself feeling closed in if I rollover and face the back.

I like the more open feel around my head in the other two, but the Lunar is my choice for a single wall shelter when I use one.

But my preference is a tarp with a beak and a bug net when needed. A high pitched tarp keeps the claustrophobia at bay!

I have owned the Contrail and currently own the 2012 Lunar Solo E (and recently picked up a contrail on Gear Swap for a buddy). I prefer the Lunar Solo over the Contrail.

The Contrail is definitely a solo shelter. It is less finicky setting up and lighter. I always felt that it was a really big bivy with a vestibule, which is why I offloaded it. If you roll around at night, I do not recommend it. A buddy of mine borrowed mine and rolled onto a wall at night and the shelter collapsed on him (soft sandy soil).

The Solo is roomier and after a few times pitching, it pitches fast and easy. I can fit myself, my dog, and all my gear in it easily. I was able to spend a couple nights in it with my wife (we are smaller framed hikers) without any problems. The Lunar Solo LE is a tad bit too heavy for my liking, and for a few ounces more, you can get a Tarptent Squall 2, which is a great shelter. I would definitely choose the standard Lunar Solo, which is basically a taller Solo E at the same weight.

Lou,
I don't really follow your comments .
)The Contrail is definitely a solo shelter. It is less finicky setting up and lighter. I always felt that it was a really big bivy with a vestibule

I read that to mean that the Contrail is a small shelter.
How we perceived space is subjective, however you can fit two mats inside so it can't be all that small…

If you roll around at night, I do not recommend it. A buddy of mine borrowed mine and rolled onto a wall at night and the shelter collapsed on him (soft sandy soil)

Why rolling on the floor is a particular Contrail problem ?
If your friend had rolled on the side of another non freestanding tent staked out the same way in the same place, would that other tent have done any better ?

franco@tarptent

Thanks for the responses! I like the lunar, but the weight with stakes is heavier. So do I understand y'all that the lunar is more roomy than the contrail? I just want enough room for my pack to go in the tent with me?

I own a Lunar Solo LE. Plenty of room for my pack on the back wall and I still have room on the door side for my other misc. items and sacks as well. I am under 6' and 160lbs. The vestibule offers further storage capacity. I have had a problem with condensation on a few occasions.

Franco,

Are my space related comments towards the Contrail subjective? Yes. I felt the Contrail was more confined than the Lunar – YMMV.

Would any other tent collapse if you roll over on it? Well, that depends, but yes and that is the reason why I mentioned the soil type the tent was pitched. The Contrail stakes points are focused on the ends. Whereas on the Lunar, the stakes are spread out in a hex shape. If you pitched the two additional points on the Contrail, it isn't a problem.

On a side note, I did recommend the Contrail to a buddy of mine (and he bought one) – but it fit his needs and the needs of the OP may be different.

Lou,
I am always interested to know how people perceive shelters.
For example you mentioned that the Contrail is " less finicky setting up" yet you will find comments in forums stating the opposite and when people do that I usually post my 50 sec set up video clip…

The Lunar LE is heavier, not the regular one. Mine is 26 ounces including stakes. The new one is one ounce heavier. Your pack will fit in any of the three shelters.

Franco

That's pretty funny that people think that way. My primary tent for the last two years has been a Squall 2, and set up between the Contrail and Squall 2 are very similar. I can pitch both fairly fast, faster than any hex type tent. The Lunar takes a bit of getting used to since the lines can easily be skewed if you don't follow the proper set up procedure.

I have never had huge issues with setting up my old contrail or squall 2 and it is always refreshing pitching the squall 2 after pitching my Stratospire 2 or YMG Stratiform.

If I went with a 70d floor would I still need a footprint?

I have never needed a footprint with a 30d floor.