Winter boot fans, start drooling now…

I also think, if you look at the description and the pictures, that the fabric does not look thin, and is not the same fabric on the low cut boot in the other picture that was posted. It looks like it can take the use of snowshoes just fine to me.

It IS important to use some sort of overboot when snowshoeing in fabric boots for multiple day outings. Without them you'll start accumulating ice in the fabric … more each day. Gators alone fall short.

"Not sure if people know this, but Patagonia Footwear is "designed" by Patagonia but is actually manufactured by Merrell/Wolverine"

The boots in question here are made by Jinjiang Oriental Phoenix Sports Goods
http://en.sport-u.net/suppliers/index.php?homepage=dongfangfenghuang

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Dude nice find on the arcteryx shoes. definitely worth a look, and although heavier, also fills a hole. in fact maybe a much more important hole to fill with those boots there…

It's nice to look at them and drool but save all of that fluid. You won't be wearing them until late 2015 or early 2016.

Bit sooner. Don't hold your breath but Arc’teryx unveiled them in Chamonix, France to a packed house there for the Spring/Summer 2015 season.

Apparently stated prices:
$270 – Alpha2 FL (removable liner)
$220 – Alpha FL GTX
$190 – Alpha FL (breathable, non removable liner)

Mids:
$320 – Bora2 Mid (removable liner)
$270 – Bora Mid GTX

I've also read the Arcteryx boots will have different liners/insoles for different purposes – more warmth, water-resistance, etc. Spring 2015 usually = mid-Jan/early February.

However, we don't know what the fit of these boots will be like, and so many manufacturers tend to make their winter boots too narrow without a roomy toe box. I don't have wide feet but appreciate that room, for good circulation and to accommodate a thicker sock without having to massively size up the boot. Let's hope Arcteryx gets it right.

Another option Will Reitveld reported on from Outdoor Retailer Winter 2014 – the Baffin Men’s Revelstoke Boot ($179) and Women’s Sage Boot ($159), with 400g insulation and a removable liner with heat reflective properties. Claimed range +41F to -58F and listed weight 2 lbs/pair though they certainly "look" heavier.

http://www.baffin.com/product-p/litem002.htm

What's the expected weight of the Arcteryx Bora 2 Mid?

And if it is cold enough the snow melt will eventually freeze inside between the fabric and waterproof membrane too, encasing your feet in little blocks of ice.

One of my boots is the Lowa Trident II. The issue you’ve identified is real, but in my experience the problem isn’t related to colder temperature per se. Like mukluks, they’re real winners in powder. But if the DWR wets out and the temperature is below freezing the stage is set for the ice block phenomenon.

Examples of lightweight insulated boots good for snowshoeing are the Vasque Snow Junkie and the Salewa Snow Trainers.

I wrote up a review of the Salewa model for Snowshoe Magazine a couple of weeks ago if anyone is interested.

OK, time for an update. Wowzers, where do I begin here. So first of all, to the naysayers… you were right. Onto the details.

I kept following up on this boot and a few interesting things happened… first of all, somewhere along the line, this boot lost its removable liner. WHAT? How did that happen? That was half the point….

So they finally updated their site to reflect that but said nothing about it in email to me… I thought about it for a month or two and figured, what the hell, patagonia replaces jackets that rip, they have great customer service, I could use some urban winter boots, let's just give it a shot.

Must have been my timing or something, because as soon as I logged on to order them, I got an error message in my search on their site, and the product could not be found. What?

A few minutes and one instant message chat later I learned that Patagonia no longer sells or manufactures shoes. Not just these shoes, but SHOES in general. WHAT???

I ended up ordering them on closeout online anyway, and you know what? I like them. They aren't good for hiking and backpacking use, but they are really light, flexible, and warm. The boots are an insulated walking shoe and with zero drop.

I'd say patagonia "has a winner" on its hands here as an urban winter boot. what the hell happened over there with their relationship with whoever makes their shoes? Anyone got any ideas? So strange.

I got some for the same reason. Just ordered a pair from STP for $80 with a %35 off. I typically wear a very thin minimalist shoe around town which get cold/damp quickly, but I couldnt bring myself to throwing on any sort of big sorel clunkers for our mostly mild front range winters, so I'm thinking these fill a niche in that they are minimal, warm and proctective.

Yeah I think its worth it, they are not expensive when you go that route, and they are pretty warm for wearing around. Its basically like a high-top insulated and water proof flat sneaker, although who knows how waterproof they really are. I like them. I just really wonder what went down in the process of making and selling shoes that didn't work out for patagonia, and also wondering why they didn't really communicate it to the client base via their email list…

"A few minutes and one instant message chat later I learned that Patagonia no longer sells or manufactures shoes. Not just these shoes, but SHOES in general. WHAT??? "
The agreement with the maker of the shoes, Wolverine, was ended en so no Patagonia-shoes anymore.

Yes, that's what they told me in our chat. Its pretty strange though to just end a relationship overnight, close out all the shoes, remove the links from the wesbite, and then not contact your customers about it at all… or the people you sell the shoes through. "the internet" still thinks these things have removable liners. I alerted some retailers today myself and they hadn't heard anything about it from anyone just yet… hmmm…..

I'm not privy to the details of why, but it is true that, at least for now, Patagonia has terminated their footwear line.

An email was sent to industry friends and family a month or so back explaining this would be the last chance to purchase Patagonia Footwear as it was being shut down winter 2014.

Wow, that's a shame. I got over a thousand miles out of each pair of Patagonia Drifter shoes on the PCT. After three years of plantar fasciitis they were the best for support that fit my foot and even my doctors and PT recommended them. Sigh…..

This was announced at Summer OR 2014- shocked the press didn't pick that up…

Apparently Patagonia footwear too small a profit for Wolverine, though Wolverine also closed some unrelated shoe stores too (just cutting the less profitable stuff):

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/mobile/article/20140720/NEWS/307209976/michigan-briefs-wolverine-steps-away-from-green-line-closes-stores

Shame as their stuff was really good and apparently helped some foot health wise.

This was announced at Summer OR 2014- shocked the press didn't pick that up…

So how warm are these things? I could use something warm and slush resistant for when I am done skiing.