Silk sleeping bag liner?

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To keep my bag clean I use windpants and windshirt over trail clothes, just to give another thought on multiuse.

Personally I have found that the seams on silk clothing items tend to rip/stretch if subjected to demanding use. This has been true of shirts, underpants, long underwear, etc.

By rip I mean as follows. Put your hands in front of your, facing your palms. Interlace your fingers. Then slowly drag your fingers apart. That's what happens to silk seams when put to hard use, in my experience.

Of course, maybe I've been simply unlucky, maybe all my garments were poorly made, wrong type of seam, etc. Who knows.

So in the case of a sleeping bag liner, I can visualize the seams pulling apart wherever your feet and elbows yank on the lining.

My 2 cents.

> That's what happens to silk seams when put to hard use, in my experience.

It's a very light weave. You need to use something like a felled seam to get the strength. Of course, that costs extra.

Cheers

i used these folks for their silk liners. Dirt cheap at $5 and they double stitch their seams and gussets. Very high quality product and quick shipment.

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=291003077824

Dat shipping tho

Here is one that will save us american folk a few bucks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-SILK-LINER-Sleeping-Bag-For-College-SHIPS-FROM-USA-Travel-Camping-/171494099218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27edd84912

Not sure if they double stitch…

Looks like the same one just being sold locally. It's made in Vietnam too.

I passed on my silk sleeping bag liner, mostly because I toss and turn too much when ground sleeping. It just wasn't working for me. To keep my bag clean, I bathe (sponge/bandana bath) before bed, and might wear silks or very light synthetic clothing to bed. Silks are increasingly difficult to find in thrift shops, so I find myself getting away from them. I found the same wear issue with most silk clothing, in that they pull apart at the seams if not simply disintegrate from age. Wearing my silks as travel PJs in a bed with cotton sheets caused faster wear, as the cotton sheets have more drag than my synthetic bag. A friend gave me a length of silk which I have started using as a "top sheet" as well as a sarong/skirt for camp wear. Paired with very light shorts and a silk or silk-weight top, I'm good. You might try a version of this, adding a sheet for your sleeping pad and using your bag as a quilt or converting it to a quilt. If you find this works for you, it is a way you could keep your bag cleaner.

for 10 bucks im gonna try it out. also durability aint a big concern at that price. heck i dont think ill like it but will try it out. i rarely keep my quilt enclosed at night, and dont like the idea of a fully enclosed liner but i really want to take care of my bag. maybe a silk sheet would be better for me?

I sewed a silk liner one time. I left one long side unsewn, and that corresponds to where my sleeping bag zipper would be. Then I used a bunch of very small safety pins to attach it to the inside. Without the safety pins, I would get tangled up in it instantly.

–B.G.–

thats not a bad idea. think ill probably just buy one though and cut one side and restitch the edge so it wont run. maybe pin it to my pad if necessary. im sure even just using it as one would a normal sheet would help quite a bit. i use a quilt so dont have to worry about getting that part dirty as its just my pad.

Anyone know the weight of those eBay liners?

The one I got was 127 grams without the stuff sack.

The one that I sewed weighed slightly over 2.0 ounces.

–B.G.–

Here is one I made and want to share, I used the silk/wool blend from dharmatrading.com. 3 yards for 30 dollars, it adds a LOT of warms and know will be great solo in the summer in certain areas. This and 5 apex quilt and wool base layers got me to 15degrees. It weighs 5.5 ounces, has a double footbox and double over in the shoulders, with a slot to stuff clothing in for a neck roll. I love how easily I can slip and rotate smoothly in my quilt without moving the quilt. The downsides are that I put velcro on my sleeping quilt, and it loves to rip it. also it looks dirty really fast, but better that then the insulation.

I'm certainly interested in Bob's 2 oz silk liner. Any tricks to that?
If you started selling these I'm guessing you'd sell a bunch on this forum.
I only wish I could sew….

5mm Silk from Dharma weighs about .55 oz per SY.

I wear a windshirt at night to keep my sleeping bag clean since I might wear it hiking but I'm stuck wearing >5oz silk weight bottoms which I never wear hiking except for winter.

I'm intrigued by the liners mentioned here for weight savings alone.

Does anyone have a link to the silk that's only .55 oz per sq yard?
There's several 5mm silk options….not sure which one to pick…

I wonder how much a pair of custom silk pj's would weigh if made from this stuff.
Not sure how much warmth it would add, but it would be cool to have a 2oz silk hoody, and 2 oz bottoms to keep my bag clean, and serve as an extra layer.. :)

Silk baselayers seem like they would get icky after a while…nullifying the original purpose of keeping my bag clean….but a looser layer might stay clean if added between my baselayer and midlayer… Just dreamin here…

Anyone try this before?