Jun 19, 2014 at 5:58 am #1318108Matthew HBPL Member
@vision-questLocale: Boulder, CO
Has anyone used this before? Any reason not to buy it over the other options? I believe it's relatively new, maybe a replacement for the old Trek 700?
3.3oz for the 700ml, 4.1 for the 1000ml. Pretty damn light.. insulated handles and everything. I'm thinking of pairing it with a Litemax.
The 1000ml seems perfect to hold all things needed for cooking, and is a great size to heat up the dehydrated meals instead of having to eat them from the bag.Jun 19, 2014 at 11:34 am #2112746
Many prefer wider pots over mugs with the belief that they're more efficient when it comes to cooking and boiling water. I only boil water and haven't found a noticeable improvement when I use a pot. I also prefer to drink my coffee and hot chocolate out of a mug vs a pot and since I'm trying to go as light as possible (read one pot or mug), I bring mugs 99% of the time over a pot.
I prefer to eat out of a Mountain House or ziplock bag since there's no clean up afterwards. I rarely need to heat up more than a pint of water so a 550ml mug is more than sufficient for me. If I were to eat out of the mug, 700ml would be the smallest I'd personally feel comfortable with.
They list the dimensions of the mugs so I'd find a PET water bottle that has roughly the same width, cut it to size so it's roughly the same dimensions, and mix up some instant rice or whatever in it to see if the capacity would work for you.Jun 19, 2014 at 12:50 pm #2112761two pintsBPL Member
I have the small pasta pot.
Here are the thing I like about it.
-insulated handles make it simple so I dont have to carry pot lifters or anything like that.
-the lid positively snaps on to the pot, so it does not rattle at all in my pack. this is also a benefit if you use the pot to strain noodles since the lid holds on tight. when boiling water though, I just set the lid on the pot without clicking it in place so I can get the lid off easily.
-I use snow peak hot lips to use this as a mug.
-the pour spout is a nice addition. it makes for less spilling boiling water on my hands as I prep my freezer bag cooking.
-The weight is really good for something in that volume range with a lid.Jun 19, 2014 at 1:23 pm #2112770Rick MBPL Member
delJun 19, 2014 at 1:41 pm #2112773Delmar O’DonnellMember
@bolsterLocale: Between Jacinto & Gorgonio
> Many prefer wider pots over mugs with the belief that they're more efficient when it comes to cooking and boiling water.
A comment on fat vs. skinny.
With boil tests and efficiency calculations, I've verified for myself that the 0.6" wider MSR Titan (4.6 in diameter) will boil water at about 3% more efficiency than the similarly profiled but narrower Imusa mug (4 in diameter) over a StarLyte modified stove. (Despite aluminum being far and away a better conductor of heat than titanium.) I've posted results in the "Alcohol Stove Efficiency Percentage" thread if you're interested. In that same thread you see guys working really, really hard to get the efficiency up on their "skinny" pots, and the guys with the impressive efficiency figures tend to use wide pots, with some top efficiency scores going to setups that incorporate the humble Kmart Grease Pot.
Obviously your choice of pot or mug goes beyond mere efficiency considerations, you have to consider weight, durability, what fits your pack best, can you fit your kit inside, etc. But width is definitely a factor when it comes to efficiency–verified empirically.Jun 19, 2014 at 1:59 pm #2112778
No disrespect Delmar but I place emphasis on "I only boil water and haven't found a noticeable improvement when I use a pot." It would of been more accurate for me to say "I only heat water" but more on this below.
I have two systems which are perfect representatives in their class as a UL pot and mug; the Trail Designs Sidewinder paired with an Evernew 600ml pot and the Lite Trail Solid Fuel system. I primarily use Esbit and only boil water to rehydrate meals.
For me, the Holy Grail is to boil 32oz (two separate meals) of 40*F water with a single .5oz Esbit Tablet. I've come close but no banana and I've decided that it really doesn't matter as I don't need for my water to achieve a boil to rehydrate my food. I can get the 32oz of water hot enough to rehydrate two separate meals and that works for me.
I suppose if I were to invest the time to measure the sub boiling water temperature, I'm sure TD would win in some measurable way but there's no way to tell the difference in the field without carrying thermometers/scales and I can't taste the difference when I eat my meal which is all that really matters. They both get the water more than hot enough and neither one can boil 32oz of 40* water which has become unimportant for me.
IMO, they're so close that it's more important to make the decision based on how the pot/mug will function for you than on perceived efficiency.Jun 19, 2014 at 2:24 pm #2112785Billy RaySpectator
@rosyfinchLocale: the mountains
The larger pasta pot has been around for a few years. Bought mine with REI logo printed on the lid about 4 years ago. I would guess that Evernew made them for REI. Not sure if REI still carries them.
I found the tight fitting lid to be a problem if you snap it on and want to be able to remove it one handed while cooking. So I used some pliers on the lid to widen the lip and make it fit less tight.
I like the narrow/mug shaped pot to use for coffee/tea without having to bring a separate mug.
I also like the larger pot because I can fit my entire cooking kit inside: fuel canister, foil wind screen, spoon, tripod for canister stability, and stove… all fit inside the larger pasta pot. I have never cooked past in this pot. I just bought it for the mug shape, light weight, and everything fits inside.
BillyJun 19, 2014 at 9:51 pm #2112957Matthew HBPL Member
@vision-questLocale: Boulder, CO
Thanks for your insight everyone. What do you guys who only use 550ml pots do when storing your cooking materials? I'm assuming here, but wouldn't it be too small to fit the gas canister and stove?Jun 19, 2014 at 9:56 pm #2112960Bob GrossBPL Member
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
"I'm assuming here, but wouldn't it be too small to fit the gas canister and stove?"
Who says that there is a gas canister and stove?
What about alcohol or Esbit? You can hide those in a shirt pocket.
–B.G.–Jun 19, 2014 at 10:01 pm #2112962
The Lite Trail/Toaks 550ml will hold the 100g canister or the stove. The Toaks 700ml will hold both.
Don't own the Evernew Pasta Pot but assume it'll hold both.Jun 19, 2014 at 10:01 pm #2112963Delmar O’DonnellMember
@bolsterLocale: Between Jacinto & Gorgonio
>They both get the water more than hot enough and neither one can boil 32oz of 40* water which has become unimportant for me.
I see what you're saying.
> IMO, they're so close that it's more important to make the decision based on how the pot/mug will function for you than on perceived efficiency.
I'm inclined to agree. I'd be likely to choose a less efficient pot that was smaller, lighter, and fit better, than a larger, heavier, bulkier pot that was more efficient.
Which is why, by golly, I don't own a Reactor or a JetBoil, both of which are supremely efficient. But my open-mindedness only goes so far: I avoid tall skinny pots because they are too inefficient for my miserly proclivities.Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 pm #2112967Ethan A.BPL Member
@mountainwalkerLocale: SF Bay Area & New England
I use the 1.3L Evernew Ultralight Ti pot for 2P and 1P now – the pot is only 3.9 oz with a Ti foil lid (4.6 oz with the stock lid) so it's light enough for 1P use. When 2P I also bring along either a GSI nForm polypropylene bowl that fits inside and still accommodates a gas canister or a Ti bowl (Snow Peak bowl) that also fits inside – both are close to the same weight. If you want to use a TD Sidewinder cone with the 1.3L Evernew pot when going 2P you can bring along a Sea to Summit silicon X Bowl or XMug which fold flat and fit neatly in the pot (the X Bowl fits in the top of the pot).
However, like some have said before, when 1P, for simplicity and light weight, I'd prefer to have a taller pot that functions well as a mug, wide enough to hold a gas canister and tall enough to hold the canister plus stove, such as an MLD 850 or similar pot. In fact I was just going to post to ask which pots people use in that size range.Jun 20, 2014 at 9:39 pm #2113274Sam FarringtonBPL Member
@scfhomeLocale: Chocorua NH, USA
Have been using the one Liter since it first came out as an REI product, maybe 5 or more years ago. It replaced the old aluminum version that weighs 2 oz more.
As was pointed out, the insulation on the handles makes it possible to grab or steady the pot barehanded. I do NOT like the top because it clips over the outside of the top rim, loses its tightness after a while, and pops off when pulling the pot out of the stuff sack. I've written to EN several times, begging for a top that fits tightly INSIDE the pot, but they just blow me off. Someone suggested in an earlier thread to install a couple bolts in the top to create more friction to hold it on, but didn't go there. Also contacted the guy who makes pot lids, but he doesn't do EN.
Still use the pot because a Coleman 16 oz canister (unrusted) fits perfectly into it, with space left over, and lasts for a week in the Rockies (not at lower altitudes though), and a Ti Gigapower wind screen fits perfectly capped over the pot's bottom for packing. It's the least worst of the alternatives.
I use the large size, to have enough hot water for self and two Shelties, and for tea and such later on. No Spartan hot toddyless one shot Esbit boil for me. For cooking, I use a Ti bowl with handles that came out of a cook kit. Now if only I could find a bowl with as much capacity, but a smaller diameter the same as the Pasta Pot, to make packing and unpacking easier. Think I saw an EN one today in a shop, but it was $65, way to much. The search goes on.Oct 1, 2014 at 3:34 am #2138788Doug HusBPL Member
@doug-hLocale: Ontario. Canada
Is the Evernew pasta pot graduated / volume marked? Is the Toaks pot as well?Oct 1, 2014 at 9:24 pm #2139023ThatCatChatBPL Member
My new Evernew Pasta Pot 700ml purchased in Japan a week ago has gradations 200/400/600 ml and 10/15 oz. By the way, the mesh bags supplied are for the standard 500ml pot, but are quite large enough for the 700ml (we checked several in Rally Grass).
However in fairness I need to say that some time ago, I fell (backwards) on my 500 pot (in my pack), and it deformed under my 90kg (I wouldn't expect that of the Snow Peak Ti solo set, for example, which is pretty sturdy). It is still quite usable, and responded to my panel-beating, but it did lose its newish appeal. If I squeeze the (empty) pasta pot, it deforms a little.Oct 2, 2014 at 3:36 am #2139045Ito JakuchuBPL Member
I have a Evernew Titanium Ultra Light 500 RED and a Evernew Titanium Ultra Light Pasta Pot 750 RED (as it says here in Japan). The 500 does not have holes in the lid, and no rubber handles. It is a good option if I just want the lightest smallest kit with me.
The 750ml past pot is a better overall option, and my whole kit fits inside (Snowpeak Gigapower Litemax GST120R Stove with small gas can, lighter, spoon etc.). If I had to choose one I would take the 750 pasta pot and taker the 22gram hit.
But for the lightest option I don't mind not carrying everything inside the 500ml pot and have an additional ziploc with some cooking gear.Oct 2, 2014 at 3:48 am #2139046ThatCatChatBPL Member
Ito, I hasten to add mine is the (hic!) brand new Evernew 750 Pasta Pot PURPLE POLKA DOT version… or was that just the (hic!) shochu speak-(hic!)-ing?
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