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Caldera Cone and Snow Peak pots

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Sean Passanisi BPL Member
PostedJun 7, 2014 at 3:12 pm

Hello. My current cook set up is a Snow Peak Ti Mini solo (narrow/tall) pot with a giga power stove. Works well enough but I'm exploring alternatives because I'd like to move away from canisters for most of my trips (I don't like the uncertainty of not knowing the amount of fuel available).

I'm thinking about getting a caldera cone and using it primarily in alcohol mode. Rand at Trail Designs suggests using the short/wide pots for ease of cleaning. I don't have anything against Evernew, but I do prefer Snow Peak. The company doesn't have much selection for short/wide pots, and it looks like my only option would be the Multi Compact Cookset, which includes 2 pots with 2 fry pan lids. I'd probably use the larger one with 1L capacity since I find my current Hybrid pot to be a bit small for the meals I cook. This pot is probably an ounce or two heavier than an Evernew equivalent, perhaps on account of the heavier lid. I don't have an immediate need for the fry pan, but it seems like it could be handy as I'd like to expand on the type of food I cook when backpacking.

I'd like to know if anyone uses this Snow Peak pot with a Caldera. I'd ideally like to able to use the same I pot I use with the Caldera as part of a larger system that nests with other pots for cooking in groups, either car camping or traveling, both using alcohol or canisters. This set up does nest in the larger 1.5L Snow Peak Cook and Save. If I go this route, I'd probably sell my Mini solo pot. But I'm still open to sticking with the narrow/tall form factor, in which case I would expand with the Trek 900 and 1400.

Also, I'd love to hear recommendations on which Caldera model is best for my uses. I think I'd primarily use the alcohol mode, but I'm intrigued to try out the wood burning option.

http://snowpeak.com/collections/cooking/products/ti-multi-compact-cookset-scs-020t

Bob Moulder BPL Member
PostedJun 8, 2014 at 5:09 pm

The way the Ti Tri sidewinder works (Inferno is the wood-burning adapter) it is designed to fit only one size (diameter) pot, so if you have multiple sizes it is not going to work with the larger ones, although it might work with a slightly smaller pot, with the loss of some fuel efficiency. That said, if you can provide the exact outside diameter of your Snow Peak pot, among TD's array of pots there is likely one with a very similar diameter, and therefore a stove that will work.

It is not designed for use with canister stoves, but maybe somebody is doing it.

For group cooking (depending on how many constitute a group) I think you will find neither alcohol nor wood as a viable option. Superb for the soloist and okay for a couple of hikers (three season), but not adequate for more than that. And also a problem in some areas with fire bans.

I have been testing various stove options and this weekend used the alcohol option of the TD stove with a 1.35L Toaks pot and 12-10 alcohol stove. Very positive impression as it brought 3.5 cups of water to a full boil fairly quickly using 25ml of alcohol. I used the wood burning option late last winter and it also works very well, although a bit more messy with the soot, but totally manageable.

Edward Jursek BPL Member
PostedJun 8, 2014 at 8:23 pm

I use a Snow Peak 700ml pot from the ti mini solo set with a caldera cone sidewinder. I use esbit. I am sure I lose a bit of efficiency over using a wider bottom pot but I love my set up. Works great for me.

PostedJun 8, 2014 at 11:17 pm

Keep in mind that the Snow Peak pots are made with a slightly thicker gauge Ti than the Evernew stuff, which is about the thinnest that I've seen on the market. The only reason this matters is for fuel efficiency–Ti is a poor conductor but incredibly strong (the difference is usually an ounce, give or take, between pots). A thicker-walled pot will be less efficient; though I doubt it's a serious concern for what we're talking about. Still, I'll take the slight edge when cooking with low-BTU fuels such as alcohol and esbit. For me, Evernew is hard to beat.

Based on the weight specs, the Toaks thin stuff (and it needs to be designated as thin-walled) appears to be just as thin as the Evernew. I have a LiteTrail 550 mL pot (made by Toaks) that is about as thin as my Evernew 1.3 L, so I'm guessing that they're another strong option. The guys at TD can help you with some of those questions.

For me, I am pretty enamored with my 1.3 L Evernew Caldera Cone in the Ti-Tri Inferno. I only keep two pots–the Evernew 1.3 L and the LiteTrail 550 mL. If I had to have only one cook set-up for alcohol and esbit, that's what I'd go with. It's light enough that I don't feel bad taking it on my own if I know I'll be cooking over a fire, and it's easy enough to share.

Anyway, great idea. Just my two cents.

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