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Pack stations granted monopoly on ressuply services in Sierra

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Marko Botsaris BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2014 at 7:30 am

I have been pondering the possibility of hiring a 2-legged resupply on the JMT, to either the Sawmill or Kearsarge pass junctions in September. I'm trying to go as slow as possible, do a lot of fishing, side loops and maybe grab a few walk-up style peaks, and so on. Interestingly, I just found out that (apparently recently) the Forest Service has granted exclusive rights to the pack stations to do resupply.

I was told that this is because they perform many essential services like resupplying ranger station and assisting in rescues, and that they need the money to stay afloat. The only thing is that this might possibly eliminate the category of 2-legged resupply altogether. We'll have to see if they add 2-legged resupply, but I am doubtful.

In a related story, anyone want to schlep in 15 lbs of food in for ~ $300. I might be able to reciprocate at another time as another solution. For me it is much less about the added effort of hiking out to resupply than about not breaking up the experience.

Maybe paying someone to bring my resupply to the tail head parking lot would be marginally less of a buzz kill. I do have the time. But purposefully going slow and being a "experiential purist" really don't go together too well on that particular stretch of trail. :-/

What are people's preferred places to hike out on that stretch of the JMT/PCT.

Bean BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2014 at 12:18 pm

This may be worthless information, because I'm speaking theoretically as I can't make plans that far out. However, that is an idea I thought about before. As last time I was talking to people on the JMT, it seemed like it was the biggest hiccup they were trying to overcome. So, I figured it would be nice if I was heading to like Rae Lakes, to offer taking up a resupply during that time.

Logistically the biggest problem seems to be one of timing, because if I was going out for like a five day trip and was carrying anothers resupply (which wouldn't fit in my bear can), it would be problematic If I couldn't offload it to the person the same day. Although, I guess I could 'take one for the team', and drag around a bearikade expedition on my shorter trip.

As far as offering money, it may sound better if it was framed as, "I'll recuperate you $300 for gas and other expenses". Otherwise, on the face of it, feels like undercutting the pack station. Where I personally tend to blow about $300 bucks on a trip like that in gas, food and incidentals, so it would be more like having my fun paid for. Although, I think I'd rather just do it with no thought of financial gain, and maybe just get a nice bottle of whiskey in the mail a few weeks later.

Keith Fultz BPL Member
PostedJul 7, 2014 at 5:25 pm

I am planning on hiking JMT this summer. It is on my bucket list and I'm 64. It's now, but not never. However, I have done a lot of fishing in the Whitney range. Are you interested in some awesome fishing not far from JMT? I will be glad to share my knowledge of 16 to 18 inch Goldens. not skinny either.

Instead of staying around Guitar lake, make it over to Hitchcock Lakes. The lower Hitchcock Lake near the inlet has some wonderful fine granite camp sites. The fishing is great there. Hardly add any distance or altitude to your trip.
At night often experience avalanche on other side of upper lake when the water freezes in the rocks.

A little more out of the way, but not too bad. Crabtree Lakes.
At Crabtree Ranger station head right a bit until you find a trail. The Lower lake is nice to camp at, but the middle lake has some pretty awesome fish.

Have a great time.

Marko Botsaris BPL Member
PostedJul 7, 2014 at 5:38 pm

Keith, I will check it out. Marking it on my map – blue triangle means good fishing.:-)

Have you been to Tyndal Creek? Its about 16 miles north from there on the JMT. Several sources refer to this as one of the best Trout stream in the Sierra.

On my last leg of the JMT southbound I will find myself with over a weeks worth of food, and a permit going for almost 2 weeks more, with only about 4 days of walking needed even at a modest pace, so if I find enough fishing I just may not come in until supplies run low. Maybe they will call me the Hitchcock Hermit by then.

Keith Fultz BPL Member
PostedJul 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm

Mark, I have been on the southern end of the JMT, but didn't get to fish Tyndale Creek.

Came up Shepherd's Pass once, and tried to get back to Wright Lakes, Heard they were pretty good. But had too big of a group with some beginners, didn't have the time to get there.

the biggest goldens I have ever caught have come out of Crabtree. Hitchcock is so close to the JMT that you definitely should take advantage

Good luck

Justin Baker BPL Member
PostedJul 9, 2014 at 9:19 pm

Well that's a bummer.

If I lived near a good JMT resupply location and needed work, I think it would be fun to do some 2 legged resupplies.

PostedJul 10, 2014 at 4:13 pm

"The Lower lake is nice to camp at, but the middle lake has some pretty awesome fish."

+1 The fattest, fighting-est trout I have ever caught in the Sierra. Big, too.

Tyndall Creek has a lot of fish, but they're not very big, at least east of the JMT. Further downstream is likely another matter. The stream is bigger there after being fed by the outflow from the lakes below Forester Pass, and the fish may well be larger, but I have never fished that section.

Wallace Lake has a lot of big fish as well, but it is a 4 mile hike up from the JMT. Well worth the visit, though, if you have the time. It is a beautiful basin.

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