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Borah Gear Snowyside Bivy- Full Review!

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PostedMay 28, 2014 at 11:36 am

I know a lot of people have been waiting for some feedback about the Borah Gear Snowyside. As an early adopter, I'll share my thoughts.

Pictures on the blog: MaxTheCyclist.com

The Borah Gear Snowyside Bivy

I used this shelter all winter and all spring, and I continue to use it as summer is just getting started. I always used it as a standalone shelter, and I slept out multiple times in snow, frost, cold rain, warm sunshine, bugs, and various ground conditions including saturated ground.

Here’s the specs of my bivy:

96in length
74in girth at shoulders
64in girth at feet

Weight:

The listed weight of the bivy without any additional features is 20oz. I opted to get my bivy bag with a full eVent floor, which Borah Gear estimated at 4oz extra (24oz total). I also opted to get the full side zip. Unless you’re a contortionist or militant ultralighter, I suggest this option. Next, I added two 3-inch zipper pulls to the outer and inner zipper on my side zip, and I added 8 feet of reflective Kelty TripTease Lightline and about 4 inches of shock cord to the top loop to hang the bag off my face. All these extras certainly added some ounces. Still, my bivy comes in at a burly 1lb 14.4oz on my not-so-accurate scale.

If you opted for a 70D urethane coated nylon waterproof bottom and no side zip, you’d probably lose between 5 and 7 ounces.

So, weight-wise, this bivy ends up being about the same as a $300 tent like the Big Agnes Fly Creek UL 1, which weighs 2lbs 1oz.

Packability:

This bivy packs down well. Wrinkling seems to be a non-issue with the eVent fabric, and it doesn’t look like creases from compression are ever going to damage the zipper or the storm flap. I can fit the entire bivy bag easily in a Sea to Summit eVent Dry Sack size small, and it chinches down all the way to the size of a large grapefruit. This packability is also, incidentally, the perfect size for a Revelate Design Viscacha Seat Bag, which I run on my bike.

Comfort:

This bivy bag is big. It’s longer than my body, wider than my mummy bag, and has plenty of room to let even my deep winter sleep system loft with an inflated pad underneath. I think if you find this bag to be constrictive, you’re either using a -40º bag and two pads, or you’re a football player who should talk to Borah about custom measurements. Constriction was never a problem in all the nights I slept in this bivy.

The tie loop on the top of the bivy is, in my opinion, not ideally placed. As it is, it’s smack in the middle of the head section, which allows the storm flap over the entrance to droop closed. There is no configuration to tie up the bivy bag so you’ve got a “window” of bug net by your face. This isn’t an issue for me yet because of the breathability of the bag, but I’ll get to that later.

eVent fabric is supposedly the most breathable 3-layer fabric, among others like Gore-Tex, Neoshell, and properietary fabrics like Mountain Hardwear’s DryQ. I found this bag to be highly breathable, and comfortably cool inside. It never really heats up like you might expect. However, don’t sleep in; the black color absorbs sunlight, so this bag gets hot during the day.

There are two other tie loops on this bag, but they are single loops dead-center at the head and foot. I would suspect that four loops at each corner would be better, since it would keep you from rolling, but I’m sure Borah gear is open to small customizations like that. As it is, I never use those stake-outs and will probably cut them off. They’re made from heavy, durable cordura and are securely attached to the eVent.

Waterproofness and Condensation:

Here’s the big question. Did I stay dry?

Yes.

I only experienced condensation in this bag at very cold temperatures, well below freezing. This condensation was all around the mouth area of my sleeping bag. HOWEVER, I experience condensation around the mouth area of my sleeping bag in open hammocks! It wasn’t any more or any less than what I’m used to for deep-winter camping, temps between -18ºF and 30ºF.

Condesnation on the inside of the bivy itself was no more than a small nuisance in deep cold. I only got a slight film on the inside, not a soaking or dropping and no wet spots on my sleeping bag, which is synthetic. Even when I had frost over the outside of the bag, I was dry and warm inside.

Waterproofness was better than expected. I thought I was going to need a tarp setup to supplement the bivy, but it does the job on it’s own. Water beads off the outside even in a thunderstorm, and I never had anything soak through. If you close the velcro on the entrance and you have the top tied up, the storm flap makes it impossible for rain to get in, even on accident if you move around at night. That was a big plus. The waterproof zipper does dampen on the inside, but it doesn’t leak. No water ever seeped in the bottom.

With my synthetic sleeping bag, I have 100% confidence in this bivy for all storm conditions.

I opt to remove the bugnet in heavy rain and instead just close the bivy all the way. Even in a thunderstorm that drenches the outside of the bivy, I still don’t get condensation during warm temperatures inside the bivy bag. In the Northeast, it’s rare for evening temperatures to get above 70. I haven’t been able to test the comfort of the bivy when I’m sweating, because it’s always 60 or lower at night this time of year. I’ll update this if we get a heat wave.

Usability:

Since my bag came in black, this makes a great stealth shelter, when I don’t want to draw attention to myself. It’s not always legal to camp in empty land or public park, since inviting a gypsy caravan would hurt nearby property values. In my experience, if you can camp very quietly from dusk till dawn without making a fire, you’ll never bother anyone. This shelter is good for this.

The bugnet is velcro’ed to the inside entrance, and is fully removable. The top of the bivy is male velcro, and the bottom is female velcro, and the bugnet has a strip of each on the top and bottom. It’s about 1 inch longer than the bivy’s velcro on both velcro strips, so it’s relatively easy to attach in the dark without a headlamp by feel with a bit of practice. I never had any bugs get in, as it seals up great. No matter how I tie up the hood, I have bugnet to spare.

The Snowyside comes in green, black, and brown, but you can’t choose your color. I would have preferred the nice green, but black is very useful, so I’m happy.

Durability:

I’ve never used a groundsheet with this bag. Instead, I move any debris before laying it down (sharp sticks, rocks) and then I go ahead and sleep. The bottom still looks 100% perfect after a few weeks worth of camping nights. That’s right, there’s NO damage at all. Cuben fiber bottoms and silnylon bottoms are easy to tear if you aren’t careful, and a lot of used bivy bags I looked at had repairs made to the bottom. The eVent fabric feels super-bomber and I would gladly pay the 4oz weight penalty for the eVent floor again if I had the choice, just for durability.

The zipper is very small, but it’s metal, and appears durable enough that I don’t baby it when I zip up at night. I’ve never had it jam, and I don’t expect it to.

The seams are all very good, and the craftsmanship is immaculate, especially around the storm flap, which makes a perfect crescent around the entrance. It’s not seam taped, so I’ll have to seal it with Seam Sealant eventually. I’m lazy, haven’t done it, and haven’t gotten wet, so I’m not prioritizing it.

Score:

92/100

Positives: More waterproof and livable than expected, good size, durable, and simple; no fiddling with stakes, poles, ropes, or nets.

Negatives: Hang loops and stake loops aren’t intuitive, slightly heavy overall (there are lighter shelters)

PostedMay 28, 2014 at 12:47 pm

I kind of talked about that. I went full eVent for the floor, threw on an 8-foot hang cord, and a full side zipper. The weight of the bivy as specced by BorahGear is 20oz, which is not SO egregious with the other bivy bags on the market:

Snowyside Bivy: $150 for 20oz

Locus eVent Bivy: ~$353 plus intl' shipping for 11.8oz

MLD Soul eVent Bivy: $355 for 13oz

It's lighter and cheaper than the widely available bivy bags, like the Outdoor Research Aurora Bivy, which is $199 for 23.5oz

No miracles here, just a pretty good shelter. I'd be willing to bet the Snowyside also wins a durability challenge, too.

Ian BPL Member
PostedMay 28, 2014 at 1:02 pm

"But 2 lbs… sweet baby cheeses that is heavy."

Dear lord baby Jesus or as our brothers to the south call you, Jesus, we thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Domino's, KFC and the always delicious Taco Bell. I just want to take time to say thank you for my family: my two beautiful, beautiful handsome, striking sons Walker and Texas Ranger or T.R. as we call him and of course my red-hot smoking wife, Carley who is a stone-cold fox.

Wow 2lbs is a deal breaker for me; I may have to reconsider the silnylon bottom. Looks like a great piece of gear though.

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedMay 28, 2014 at 2:10 pm

Thanks for the review Max,

I ordered one the same spec ad yours and it came at 32.8oz, which was at least 6oz heavier than expected.

It weighed nearly twice as much as my Integral designs all event overbag so I sold it rather than looking for a refund.

Besides the weight it was a very nice bivy.

PostedMay 29, 2014 at 9:25 am

Stephen,

Having handled the bulk of eVent bivy bags available, did the durability of the Snowyside (or, rather, the apparent durability) impress you? Do you think there's a reasonable trade here between ounces and durability?

Thanks

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedMay 29, 2014 at 3:17 pm

Max,

The event on the Borah one did seem slightly thicker but not by much, the ID one had a softer feel buts its a couple of years old.

The Borah is larger and has no meshing side zip.

When I spoke with John he reckons the seam tape and event may have been thicker than normal.

PostedMay 29, 2014 at 3:51 pm

Hmm, I wonder what changes thicker eVent has to the performance of the bag. It's hard to complain about a product I've been happy with, though.

I'll keep beating it up, I guess, and see how it resists.

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedMay 29, 2014 at 4:14 pm

I have had about 4 event jackets over the years, all but one are 3 layer but come in different thicknesses and all look brand new after a lot of use.

One weighs 1.5pounds and is built like a brick outhouse, the event on that feels as durable as the Borah bivy.

PostedMay 29, 2014 at 10:00 pm

I had mine built with a cuben floor, side zip, and taped seams, and it comes in at 18oz. It's above what I was expecting as well, but I'm just throwing it out there that the weight certainly can be trimmed substantially for those that are deterred by this otherwise great bivy. When I compared this weight to the other offerings from MLD and such, it was close when you factor in how much larger this bivy is and the options that came with it. If it had the much smaller dimensions of the competitors, no side zip, and no taped seams, it would be right around the same weight. For me the spaciousness of it was a major draw as I primarily use this bivy in the Winter time. And in that time of the year, I'm not really stressing too much over a few extra ounces here and there.

Alex H BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2014 at 4:17 am

Matt is right on. The lightest eVent bivy I have seen is the MLD but the dimensions are what make it light (and the cuben floor) but the price????

The Snowyside is still the best price in an eVent bivy and they are all at least 18 oz. and up. It is the price you pay for no condensation.

I don't understand a metal zipper but a side zip to me is mandatory as my contortionist days are long past.

PostedMay 30, 2014 at 8:44 am

Having never used a bivy, I'm curious why someone would opt for this instead of something along the lines of a BA Copper Spur UL1? It seems like you get a lot more with a tent than just a bivy at the same weight.

Steve K BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2014 at 8:49 am

The biggest upside to using a bivy is not having to stake it out and construct a pole skeleton to erect it. This is a big advantage for speed and also in very windy conditions. It is also good for stealth camping and on rock platforms.

PostedMay 30, 2014 at 9:14 am

I can only tell you what I like about it.

I did a 30-day bicycle tour with a Hennessy Hammock, and about 2 months of touring with a Big Agnes tent. I would roll up exhausted to beautiful campsites and want only to sleep and recharge, and I'd have to set up the shelter. Every morning, I'd wake up to a beautiful sunrise and be rearing to go, but I'd have to take down my shelter piece by piece, unknotting knots, pulling up and cleaning off stakes, shaking out seaprate pieces like rain flys and groundsheets…

I got tired of the repetitive "chores" every evening and morning. I was losing 10 minutes twice a day just getting ready to sleep, or getting ready to ride.

With this bivy, I literally throw it on the ground, toss in my sleeping bag and pad, and go to sleep. I switched to a Thermarest Prolite from an X-Lite for the same reason; I save 30 seconds, twice a day, day after day after day.

I love going camping with friends, chucking the bivy on the ground, and running off to collect firewood or find a walking stick or take some pictures.

It's a do-anything shelter with no fuss, bomber durability, security in all conditions, and it's impossible to forget a crucial part.

PostedMay 30, 2014 at 11:35 am

I found your review very compelling, Max. I've never even considered a bivy due to all the chatter about condensation, and that apparently just isn't an issue for you. Weight doesn't scare me off, because I'm hauling a 3-lb Hubba now. I keep saying to myself, "If a bivy would just work" (ie, not get moist inside) "it would be ideal." Your review is pushing me one step closer to the radical edge.

And yeah, I'd love to not futz with poles, stakes, and tent setup and takedown.

For the ultimate in laziness, is it possible to simply leave your pad and bag in the bivy, roll the whole thing up, and stuff it into your pack as a sushi roll?

Alex H BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2014 at 3:16 pm

Certainly possible but much easier with the pad out unless it really deflates easily and well.

Ian BPL Member
PostedNov 2, 2015 at 10:10 am

Thanks again to Max for the review above. I was ready to pull the trigger on a full eVent bivy prior to reading his review but the reported weight scared me off. From looking at their website today, they are now offering 1 oz cuben fiber as an option with a reported weight of 16oz and $240 price tag. $100 cheaper and a few ounces heavier than the (IMO) gold standard in this class, MLD eVent Soul Bivy. http://www.borahgear.com/eventbivy.html I'm intrigued.

PostedNov 2, 2015 at 11:36 am

Hi Ian, There is actually a new version of the Snowyside coming out this Friday :) We changed the closure/netting system to make it easier to use. Instead of velcro for the main closure it is now a waterproof zipper that runs down the side as well. This saves a nice chunk of weight over the old closure. The main difference however is that there will be an option for a silpoly floor, bringing the total weight down to 12oz, with the design being largely the same as the current Snowyside that has done so well. Plus we're not increasing the cost at all, still only $160 for the silpoly version. There will be options for a .74oz cuben floor, as well as the heavier 1.9oz PU coated floor for the mountaineering folks. Cheers -John

Ian BPL Member
PostedNov 2, 2015 at 11:53 am

Thanks for the update John. I look forward to seeing them on your website. Inquiring minds would like to know… When I looked at your website earlier, I noticed the Borahgami and larger tarps were missing, with the 5.5×9 tarp being the only option. Are you transitioning to a new fabric or…? (ALCON, there's a bivy/tarp discount deal being offered now) Any updates for a Stealth Pack return?

PostedNov 2, 2015 at 12:19 pm

Hi Ian, As for the larger tarps, we're currently concentrating on the bivys, there has been a large increase in orders for them these past few months, so since we only have two full time seamstresses, I've had to re-arrange some labor. They'll be back soon though, as I plan on hiring some extra help towards the end of the year. The pack I have been keeping on the backburner, its design is finalized, but waiting for a break in the action to release it!

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